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 Workman
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 Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea  [Re: DinoMyc]
#679238 - 06/14/02 06:24 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think they look pretty similar. I would think it would be more amazing to grow out a contaminate that looks so similar to the intended target. I haven't previously grown anything like this before, so contamination from my other specimens is unlikely. I plated the original sample several times with the same results. The spores of the original sample match well with the cultivated specimen. It is a better match than the lab cultivated Psilocybe mexicana compared to its wild version as shown below.
 
I used a similar methodology to extract spores from dried specimens with both the mexicana and violacea.
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: ]
#679266 - 06/14/02 06:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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The yellow mushrooms are Psilocybe mexicana next to a photo of wild Psilocybe mexicana. Check out http://www.sporeworks.com/gal8/8.html for more mexicana photos. And here for some general information about the species. http://www.sporeworks.com/mexicana.html
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 Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#679359 - 06/14/02 07:37 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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DinoMyc
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: ]
#679776 - 06/15/02 06:59 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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what you saw were enoki mushrooms grown in a high CO2 environment to promote long stems and small caps. If they looked like those in the picture here, they were harvisted too late.
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#679801 - 06/15/02 07:08 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I still don't see a pigmentation in lieu of the coloration from the spores.. it is very well possible that it is simply due to lab cultivation..
maby there is something missing in the substrate? some chem which is used to produce the coloration?
still wonderful work, regardless. The mini carpophores are definatly cool..
keep it up
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 Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe viola [Re: Workman]
#680040 - 06/15/02 10:04 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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WORKMAN, fits you perfect great job!
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 Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe viola [Re: Workman]
#680870 - 06/15/02 05:25 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow, beautiful! Especially the wild ones. I have a new reason to work for money!
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 Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#691721 - 06/21/02 02:26 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey there,
Based on the size of the items that I saw in pictures in this article http://www.imaginaria.org/wasson/life.htm , the ones Eva Mendez handed to Wasson appear to be Mexicana also. The one thing they were not specific about was the exact item that were used in the ceremony that night...but I know some were sent on to Heim and I think Hofmann got his from Heim.
Best regards,
KingBolete
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#692485 - 06/21/02 11:07 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Overmature P. violacea in the same quart jar, third flush. New mushrooms developing on stems.
More images here.
http://www.sporeworks.com/newpictures/062102/
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#692746 - 06/21/02 02:00 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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DinoMyc
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#694697 - 06/22/02 04:20 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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resilient little bastards, fungi are..
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: DinoMyc]
#695588 - 06/23/02 03:21 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now that is the most amazing thing I've ever seen in mushroom cultivation. I've seen caps with no stems, mushrooms growing upside down, a pinner growing from a cap, and plenty of joined mushrooms, but this takes the cake. This species has got to be the most determined fruiter I've ever seen, ever! Too bad its not active, it'd be a perfect cubensis alternate if it was active.
Anyways, great work WM! If only the mammillata would fruit so easily...:)
LK,
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Lizard King]
#695864 - 06/23/02 08:38 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just cased round 2 of mammilata. Wish me luck!
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#697529 - 06/24/02 01:57 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wish you mucho luck workman Not to detract from this post or change subject, but have you noticed any sclerotia forming in the substrate or casing layers of the suspect mammillata? Just curious.
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Lizard King]
#699698 - 06/25/02 05:35 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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None at all.
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 Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Workman]
#710226 - 06/29/02 04:56 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: Lizard King]
#736145 - 07/10/02 08:40 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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I failed again with the mammilata. I'll try something different this time.
Here is a picture of the violacea on millet cased with peat oystershell. Second flush started showing that pinning from the stems again.
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#736164 - 07/10/02 08:46 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Workman
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Re: Progress on the cultivation of Psilocybe violacea [Re: ]
#736250 - 07/10/02 09:15 AM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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The ring structure isn't the same and, most importantly, the spore color isn't the same. Identification on images alone is tentative at best.
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