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 Garret_Hill
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 Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod 
#575545 - 03/11/02 03:31 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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If I wanted to make a hydro-pod where would I start & what would I need.A five gallon bucked some type of dome sheild,a heating device,an air/water system etc....all put together to work together to make a pod what it is an excellent grow system that works.If anyone has a list of items & how to put them together lemme know.- Thank You-
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Garret_Hill]
#575770 - 03/11/02 10:59 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is being discussed here in the picture forum
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PM me with any cultivation questions.
I just looked at my profile and realized I had a website at one point in time on geocities, it's not there anymore and I have no idea what I had on it. Anybody remember my website from several years aga? PM if so please.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Garret_Hill]
#575827 - 03/11/02 11:58 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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MeneerCactus
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Anonymous]
#575865 - 03/11/02 12:40 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes we are all happy, but I think we good be more happy.
High and Hello,
Q: why do you react on this post if you don't wanna share your pressious info with us.
Q:without me having to take any potential risks of disclosing my designs....
This I really don not understand?
What if PF was thinking like that? Would you had your knowledge today? (No offence!!!)
But my compliments for your Hydra-pod it looks great and it seem to work asume 2.
But for just expirimenting a noisy few times I think it is some expensive. I am a newbie who started with casings and wanna try "the old fashioned way" also in different systems.
With love from Holland,
MeneerCactus
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JackMehoff
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: MicronMagick]
#575967 - 03/11/02 03:11 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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In reply to:
Learn how the world really work rather then lipping off when you don't know what your talking about!!!!
Take your own advice.
Why do you spend so much time running interferance for this NARC fellow?
Are you his alternate mouthpiece? Do you have financial interest in his business?
The NARC posts:
"Glad to see that you were able to get what you were looking for without me having to take any potential risks of disclosing my designs."
I laugh out loud.
I care not for the over priced 5 gallon bucket. I believe someone should post the plans of the miracle bucket for those that do. If you have the plans and are interested in seeing them released and for whatever reason the NARC frightens you with his threats of litigation and NARCARY then contact me.
Most of the parts for building the miracle bucket are easy to locate. The wonder dome is one of the more difficult to locate. If you look around you can find them online. Here is one source:
http://www.haxnicks.co.uk/ 
For those who are interested in something larger than the miracle bucket, there are larger systems available for comparable or less money than the miracle bucket, even from the hydro-shops.
http://goldcoasthydro.com/
Never under estimate the gullability of the idiot element.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: MeneerCactus]
#575995 - 03/11/02 03:44 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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all I can say is wow, people are stupid. Sometimes I start laughing to myself reading these responses Mycotek service gets. It's like people who grow mushrooms don't live in the real world or something; I don't know where they've gotten this utopian idea "businesses should give away shit for nothing". You see it everywhere on this forum, and while I don't give a rat's ass where they got it from (because it is obviously wrong); it does bother me that they constantly feel the need to express it. Any decently educated person should realize that rarely anything is free in life. And anyone who graduated high school and is not semi-retarded should know that without Mycotek sevice selling pods; there would be no pods. You would have no plans for anything. Some of you mushroom people think that the world owes you something, but it doesn't. And Mycotek service doesn't either. So fine if you can build your own pod and source the right materials for that dome and top tray, go right ahead. Spend 20 hours or so getting the right shit together, drilled out, glued; adjust the water volume, fresh air exchange rate......by the time you are done you will have wasted more time than the $180.00 is worth. To me, time is money, and money is time. Even if I could build a pod in 3 or 4 hours that somehow worked just as good as his (say I get extraordinarily lucky, no say I get help from god, a miracle); it still wouldn't be worth my time. My spare time is valuable, just like money. Oppurtunity costs? This is what an innovative yet tiny company like Hydrapod struggles with every day. This is his job man (and not his only one); and it rightfully should be. I for one would be very pissed (a hundred other pod and multi-pod owners I'm sure would agree) if people like you stole all of his ideas, eventually running him out of business and truly back to doing this only as a hobby. You don't realize it but this is what it seems like you all want. Why are you people trying to drive out a great new talent? If you people start getting all of his products for free then he will soon close his business I imagine (especially if there are teks n shit, but that will soon be illegal); and then we'd get none of the benefit of his research and technology, because you know he's getting the patents for both the pod and the revolutionary new coconut strate he's developed. Me, and whole lot of other people with the money to buy the best (by far, there really is no quality competitor), most compact grower would be very, very pissed. I mean, have you seen the fruits that FIRST TIME growers are getting out of the pods? You all should be kissing his ass every chance you get, if you knew what was good for you. Casings? cmon, that's for hillbillies or commercial growers. Personally? I think its ridiculous to have trays of cased myc sitting around the house stinking up the place. Shit I'd rather buy shrooms any day, not worth the trouble. Nice soggy perlite or vermiculite over cakes sitting for a couple of weeks? Spray it twice a day? If you're a commercial grower or growing strains that don't grow on cakes then fine, but otherwise that's for suckers. I don't have the time, like I said before, my time is worth money. I just wish there were more people like me on this forum, people who maybe work hard for a living, but like to play and party hard too!! People who want the best, because that is what the pod is right now; until something better comes along. I've been so impressed with my 1st pod that I've bought 1 more, and will eventully have 4 in a matter of a few weeks. I mean it's crazy, you could probably fit 4 or 5 of these things in the bottom of a reasonably sized closet, and it's totally automated. You don't have to do anything except set it up and pick mushrooms. I think more of you people would go out and get one if you realized how good these things work, especially beginners who would otherwise probably get weak fruits out of a homemade terr, especially their first few tries. And that right there is enough to say forget it for most people, I'm sure. Especially with all that work involved in building your cardboard box and spraying twice a day. I challenge people to buy one, hell ask him for a deal on one if you somehow don't think it's quite worth it. I'm sure he'd love to get some into the hands of the skeptics, because that really is the only obstacle. This thing works extremely well, it is at the very least the future of low scale mushroom growing; but I wouldn't be suprised if you see it used very well for some small to medium growers too eventually, ones that focus on quality of fruits rather than yield. Connoisseur growers, just like with bud. Anyways, I'm a bit high and rambling, all I can say is get a Hydrapod if you want to get into shrooms but don't have a whole lot of time, you will get great shrooms with little to no effort past prepping the jars. Hell get the presterilized bags of substrate too and you're set, hardly any work at all !!!! Sure it takes money now, but in soon enough time you'll be getting a very nice payback!!!! It's well worth it, I can testify to that!!!!
p.s. If you do get a pod check out the materials and parts, they are actually a very large chunk of the retail price if you look them all up........ and he offers a lifetime warranty over and above all the manufacturers warranties (1-3 years I think?) on the whole thing, bumper to bumper for life? Can you beat that with a stick? I don't think so!!!!
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: JackMehoff]
#576050 - 03/11/02 04:54 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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right on jack! someone correct me if im wrong but its that dome the only difficult part to find? and why would anyone need a blueprint of the pod? the concept is simple.
thanks for the great link jack!!
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#576054 - 03/11/02 04:55 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well Said Kind!!!
Peace,
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#576073 - 03/11/02 05:28 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Kind part of your post was OK the rest utter bullshit. Nothing wrong with a business making a profit. I agree. However you deserve a AssHumper10K juicing for stating cakes are better than casings and the hillbilly bullshit. You need to pull your nose out of Mcmans ass and do some more studying. I m sure you re gonna get called to the carpet for that part of the post. Its idiotic.
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#576086 - 03/11/02 05:35 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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High All,
A few things I still don't get over here. I am for you guys maybe a newbie and maybe I am. But 1 thing I have seen many times on this bulletinboard is people loosing their temper. Starting wars of words. I also have seen the last month, surfing on this site, that it seem to be the same people who are involved in this word wars.
Then as it seems those party have their own clan which involves right away in de war of the words.
Why, why, why? Isn't their war enough, enough violance, etc. Or can it come as a result of cultural differences. That we don't understand each other.
And it is so easy to get involved, like it is easier to react in a negative order than reacting in a more peacefull mindset.
But I still don't understand the reaction of M, you don't have to react on stuff, you don't even have to read it. What is your motivation when you reply on things as above and the only information given is how "important (to the pod)" you are.
Please don't reply if it is loaded with negativity.
With love from Holland
Make drugs not war,
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: SouthernGent]
#576096 - 03/11/02 05:46 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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i think part og the problem with these poeople that think the pods are a rip-off got used to EVERYTHING on the internet being free... those times have changed, buisnesses learned that by giving away products they go out of buisness. You HAVE GOT to make a profit or you go out, end of story. Im not all that new to growing, ive been growing for over 6 months, but have yet to get any great yeilds. Also some people think that since they have all this time to collect parts, scheme and build a pod everyone should have this large ammount of time, all i can say to this is wait till your in the real world and have to work every single stinkin day, the last thing you wanna do when you get a couple free hours is do some more work even if it is your hobby. I'm in no way an advanced grower, only been trying for 6 months with far from impressive yeilds with a home made terr. if i would have known that it would be so hard to maintain temps in my house i would have saved MY time and bought one of these, hell i still might.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: SouthernGent]
#576170 - 03/11/02 07:23 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I don't grow mushroom for a living so, can't comment further on what I said about casings I've never tried them. Probably never will, for the very reasons I explained. More power to you if you like to sell a bunch of shrooms, that's definitely the way to go for yield. But I stand behind what I said about casings versus the pod for beginners, especially for those who aren't commercial growers and are growing mostly for personal use (friends and shit included of course). Did I ever say cakes are better than casing? I don't think so, sorry if I did. I was trying to say that they were better for non-commercial growers and beginners. I think you read me wrong there, there is really no way that I would plainly say that cakes are better than casing. I know that isn't true, though it really isn't false either. Each has it's obvious advantages and disadvantages.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#576230 - 03/11/02 08:52 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well boss, you say you don't need a lot of mushrooms because your not selling them, then why are you going to have 4 pods? Hell you could get enough mushrooms to keep you and all your friends content for 6 or 7 months if you spend $40 or so more and get a DB kit. You don't need to sell shit, just store them properly. Oh, and I've never in my growing experience had a casing "stinking up the place".....and for the amounts you get, casings are more compact then cakes....one small casing can produce the same or more then 4 or 5 cakes that will take up twice the space..............
Fully automated terrariums can be set up in a matter of a few hours straight or if spread it out you could work 15-20 mins a day and get it done in a couple of weeks. These terrariums can produce picture perfect shrooms.....Hell you don't even need to stray from your prescious Mcman's side, he's got plenty of plans for a terr like this.
Oh by the way, I for one know how it feels to be limited on time.....I work....I am a full time college student.....and I gotta find time somewhere in there to see my girl and my family. I'm sure many people in the community are very greatful towards Mcman(mycotek), he has come up with many great ideals that help us all to further this hobby in our own homes....and there are others that aren't.......but almost all of us know that time is money and we know how hard we have worked for the little money that we make so we don't feel that ponying up that kind of dough for a bucket is justifiable when we can get more for our money with other systems that may not produce pretty mushrooms...but your gonna eat them any way...they all come out the same in the end.
This post was not meant to flame Mcman or the hydro-pod.....I think it is a nice system for true to life mushroom development.....this was meant to inform other parties that there are reasons people don't like the pod, its not just blind hatred toward Mcman.
Oh and for all you looking to build a pod....those domes aren't really that hard to find......many large gardening catalog companies sell them for 3-8 dollars a peice depending on the company and the size of the dome. They are for warming the soil for early outdoor transplants. Also small water pumps can be bought on e-bay brand new for 10-25 dollars depending on output and how good you are at bidding.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: SouthernGent]
#576244 - 03/11/02 09:01 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gent, I don't think his nose is really in anyone's ass. I've pretty much kept quiet about the pod lately cause I felt like mycotek was acting like sort of an asshole with the sue me, sue you bit and deserved a match between his toes. For the record, I stand by my prior statement that "Mcman" is the friggen Thomas Edison of the shroom world (Yeah Edision had his loving traits too). The pod kicks ass, pal.
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#576252 - 03/11/02 09:09 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the hydra-pod is kind of cool. It seems like a smart design. I just don't have enough money to burn on a bucket. I'm the type of person who would rather do something myself. That's part of the fun. I could care less if Myco-tek gives away his plans or not. There are others out there. I'm just sickened by his shameless promotion. It seems like every other sentence has to relate to the hydra-pod and/or how some tek won't work unless it involves the hydra-pod. I'm sick of hearing about the thing. Now let's talk about growing already.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Anonymous]
#576312 - 03/11/02 10:14 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Talking to yourself?
I see that as I typed this you edited the part of your post about people hateing you for being an all knowing genius, and wanting to sponge your designs like ungreatfull bastards, and refuseing to grovel at your feet and worship the mushroom messiah McNARC.
I intended to respond to your previous post. As you edited your post, I will respond to the one that is displayed as I type.
"...those dome lids that you just linked to are useless for anyone trying to build a pod-like growing device. None of those domes will come close to fitting a standard 5 gallon bucket."
BULLSHIT.
The Large Victorian Bells
Diameter 45cm / 18" Height 36cm / 14"
Injection moulded from top quality impact polystyrene
Price: ?26.99 (2/pack)
The Original Victorian Bells
Diameter 34cm / 13" Height 26cm / 10"
Price: ?17.99 (5/pack)
The Baby Victorian Bells
Diameter 25cm / 10" Height 20cm / 8"
Price: ?11.99 (5/pack)
A little research would save others the trouble of ever dealing with you McNARC.
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Edited by JackMehoff (03/11/02 10:18 PM)
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: JackMehoff]
#576324 - 03/11/02 10:33 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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so are you saying that these wil fit a 5 gallon bucket jack? i dont know the dimentions of a bcuket. either way those bells are rad!! they would make nice fruiting chambers themselves.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Anonymous]
#576332 - 03/11/02 10:42 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Being the genius and inventor that you are, you can't figure it out?
Surely this source or your super seceret source for the wonder domes are the only producers of these domes in the whole world.
Yes, one must surely buy a miracle bucket to get such a dome.
Never under estimate the gullability of the idiot element.
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: JackMehoff]
#576349 - 03/11/02 10:58 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes people start a bizness and then there are those who pay and those who search for another way and play with the many options that are out there this is how things go to the next level just think about cars if no one tried to copy old henry ford we would all be driving fords and the quality of cars would suck cause it the only option we would have henery had a great idea that only got better and people like me made the BMW's bentlys jags possible by turning up the heat. Mr.Pod I admire your work thank you for the idea just know everyone that has a cool product in any feild of work deals with this thats why they have things like patents,copyrights etc........
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: pleezr]
#576351 - 03/11/02 11:00 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you have used napster or morphus then that makes you just as guilty.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Garret_Hill]
#576357 - 03/11/02 11:05 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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an example was in high school a kid was making fake ids everyone was dishing out cash for these "great kick ass ids" I said fuck paying for it and looked into it myself only to find a way to make an id ten times better and I had to pay nothing for it cause I made after that I had the "great kick ass ids" for half the price and free to my friends.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Garret_Hill]
#576359 - 03/11/02 11:08 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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excellent. I want some "great kick ass ids" I would really appreciate it if could pm me instructions on how to do this or send me a link. If not I'll have to call up my friend.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: pleezr]
#576382 - 03/11/02 11:41 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of the wonder domes listed, the "original victorian bell" (5/?17.99) may be a perfect fit for a 5 gallon bucket, notice the flared lip (you would want to measure and inquire before purchasing). This is only one source for these wonder domes, there are countless others, contrary to what McNARC would like you to believe.
You can build an identical wonder bucket for a fraction of the price of the bucket he sells. If you prefer to purchase a pre-fabricated system, there are many alternatives to his over priced 5 gallon bucket. You can find larger, cheaper systems even when paying high hydro-store prices.
For example:
http://www.ahl-hydroponics.com/phydrokits.html
"AHL offers four different starter kits, priced from just $49.99 to $99.99! These complete systems include rockwool starter cubes, hydroponic nutrient, pH test kit, pH Up, and pH Down. All AHL hydroponic systems have a two-year warranty against parts and/or workmanship defects."
http://goldcoasthydro.com/
AERO BUCKET SYSTEM $47.95
Aero Bucket Systems include: Module, Air Pump, Ceramic Rock.
EBB AND FLOW 2?x 2? SYSTEMS $130.00
Both the 2?x 2? and the 2?x 4? Ebb and Flow models include: Submersible Pump, Reservoir and cover, Timer, Six-inch Humidity Dome and Bench.
EBB AND FLOW 2?x 4? SYSTEMS $185.00
These may or may not require slight and inexpensive modifications to convert to miracle bucket status. All of these will no doubt prove to be equal if not superior products when compared to the miracle bucket. All for costs comparable or less than the miracle bucket.
There are countless such examples that anyone can track down in a matter of minuts. Or you can be sucked in by McNARC and pay him $200 for a 5 gallon bucket. And hope he doesn't ever take it upon himself to turn your address over to the LEO.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: JackMehoff]
#576668 - 03/12/02 08:53 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jackmehoff
Look at those fuckin contraptions, dude. You tryin to jack me off?
Leaf
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Anonymous]
#576797 - 03/12/02 11:15 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mcman thats the kinda shit that pisses people off. Myself if I wanted a pod I d buy one from you, but I have no need for one. Why would you not just post something like hey Jack those domes dont work and here is where I buy the ones that do work. If a guy wants to build a pod why not help them source the parts?
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#576963 - 03/12/02 02:03 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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And they say it's impossible to suck your own dick.
I used to respect you McMan. Even stuck up 4 your ass a few times.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: them_26]
#577054 - 03/12/02 03:34 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not McMan, or whatever you guys keep calling Mycotek service. Do you think you all are cool because you can call him by his old name? It's really not very impressive, I really don't know who you were talking to in this but if it was me then you are mistaken in thinking it is Mycotek Service, I am simply a relatively new grower who is having enourmous success with the pods. So I know the pods, do any of you guys who keep ripping them know them? Shit for all of your negative views of it I bet not a single one of you has ever even seen one in person, much less used one. You've got Jackmeoff posting all of these PLANT hydro systems (implying that with simple modifications it will be miraculously be turned from a plant growing system to a fungus growing one), which may very well work with some modifications..... But then again it may not turn out as good as a pod no matter what you do, and then you are out around half of the price of a pod or more. I think it is important to point out that none of you guys making suggestions of how to make your own "miracle bucket", have ever used the stuff you are looking up. Really; it is not that impressive to me that Jack can do a simple search on "cheap hydro systems", and then pull off a few pictures. Oh yeah, and no it is not impossible to suck your own dick.
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#577071 - 03/12/02 03:51 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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At first the thought of using a plant hrdro unit for fungus instead of plants seemed awkward to me too. Then I realized that most off those "flow" units are used for cuttings/clones to root in. Interesting, when you set cuttings in a container they DO need about 100% humidity untill long roots emerge. So, on the face of it, it seems to me that these units are a great place to start.
As far as all of the talk about the plastic dome meeting an exact fit.. so what if it isnt? After years of making home-made pipes and bongs I can tell ya that there are many ways of getting two diferent sized pieces of hardware to fit tightly. Things like Silicon glue, rubber/plastic gaskets etc.. can easily help thengs fit tight.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: JackMehoff]
#577090 - 03/12/02 04:20 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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What's the facination with the bucket.It's a container...It holds things. What about the innards? Thermostat, humidistat (humid-o-meter?) heater, vaporizer,air pump? Stuff like that seems far more important than trying to make something thats looks just like a hydro-pod. Hell if you get everything else working, just put another bucket over a bucket and cut the bottom out of the top bucket and cover it with clear plastic and call it a "Ghetto-pod".
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: pleezr]
#577356 - 03/12/02 08:34 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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How the hell do I get a pod? I've thrown down so much money for the PF-Tek just to make that thing work. I wouldn't mind spending 2x taht for a pod.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#577427 - 03/12/02 10:12 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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McMan (as many of the shroomerites from more then 6 months ago know him as) changed his name to mycotek-service not that long ago, many of us remember him as and associate him with the name Mcman....either way he's still the same person new name or not.
Well Kindnug not too long ago Mcman(mycotek) had a little note saying that the advanced pod could be used as a mini hydro system to grow plants (although it seems it has been removed recently).......This would mean that there is not a major difference between an ebb & flow hydroponic system and the hydro-pod.......PLUS there is a grow log in process in the picture forum involving a similar system to the pod (designed for hydroponic plant use) being used for the cultivation of mushrooms!!!! I beleive there weren't any major modifications to the hydro system except the addition of a bowl to the top to emulate the pods dome......if this system were tweaked a bit it could be better geared towards fungus, more on level with the pod......
Again I don't think the pod is horrible invention and that Mcman is bastard scheister....not at all....mc has many good ideas and contributes a lot to the community (exceptions do exist but have been covered to the point of redundency), I just think the pods are a bit expensive and a tad overpriced. If I could get a used one in working condition I might consider giving it a good home, but I have yet to see anything impressive enough from the pod to warrant me spending that kind of money.....
And in the past, around the time of the Pod's release, many people tried emulating the pod, some to the point of cloning it with mcman's help.....but untill recently as the pod grew in popularity among newbies, not much was known on how it functioned. Perhaps other vendors could come up with a similar ebb & flow system, and create some competition to bring down the prices and up the functionality of these things.
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 Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Anonymous]
#577499 - 03/12/02 11:42 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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What a debate going on here.....the Hydro-Pod and the Aqua Farm mentioned above are good systems, and as with any system has room for improvement....McMan has done a good job of doing this with the Hydro-Pod and has a product that does what it supposed to do. I am making my own "Farm" simple because I have the ability, some people don't....If I felt that I needed one and could afford one I'm sure I would buy one. McMan is just providing a service like any good and decent Capitalist Vender, I'm sure if anyone else had the oppourtunity to sell a product they created or improvised they would.
CASH RULES.....for the most part I don't do cakes much anymore and cannot justify buying a Hydro Pod......but I have all the parts to make a system almost as good,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ; }
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
#577541 - 03/13/02 12:41 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like to hear people tell it like it is w/o all the unnecessary flaming that often comes with it.
I appreciate that!
In reply to:
mc has many good ideas and contributes a lot to the community (exceptions do exist but have been covered to the point of redundency)
All unnecessary flaming and redundancy aside, there was an exception or two now that I think of it wasn't there. Like the photo manipulation thing. The lies. The attempted blackmail of several members/vendors here. The threats of haveing one spore/culture vendor busted by placeing a culture order and haveing it sent to the LEO. Just little things like this here and there.
Insignificant little things like these don't matter much when you consider his many good ideas and contributions to the community.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
#577559 - 03/13/02 12:57 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with everything in your post Shaggs, like I said I too thought that this thing is way overpriced for a bucket. For some unexpainable reason I bought one anyway kind of just to try, and I'm hooked. Without the pod I am sure that I still would not yet be growing, I guess the single overwhelming reason I bought it was the ease of use. It's very cool for beginners like me to be able to watch everything happen too, from primordia to pinning. It's so touchy feely how you can move the cakes around to create space, make adjustments to other shit. Very easy to pick aborts as well as the big guys because you can just take the cakes out and gently hold while you twist. And yeah he's told me about growing regular plants and other stuff in it (I'll be trying Salvia divinorum this summer);you are very right in saying that it is close to many of the cutting and cloning hydro systems. The air entrainment may still be a slight problem, but then again maybe not. I guess it probably just depends on the unit. I would love to hear if anyone has ever tried to use an ebb and flow system for shrooms, you would figure at least a few people have tried it. It may very well work, and one of those big units could sure turn out the mushrooms if you had a house with a basement to put it in out of the way. And in regards to your earlier post, I can't say that I won't sell an o now and then to a close friend. Hell a few of these pods might as well pay for themselves right? The point I was trying to get across was simply that I didn't care about the money, I just want to have great shrooms (many different kinds too) that I can say I grew. It is a good feeling, and one that I might not have had for a few more years without the Hydrapod system. That is cool what you said about giving a used pod a home, sometimes I just wish there were a few more experienced pod growers around to post too, so it doesn't always look like Mycotek vs. the Shroomery forums or mycotek and newbie poddies vs. experienced but antisocial and cheap growers. The grow log with the Aquafarm is indeed impressive, especially when considering there were no modifications done to it besides the top. Maybe with a dome and some duck tape stolen off that old shitty Graffix you haven't puffed in 2 years it would be even better. Can't wait to see the second and hopefully third flushes, if you all want I can start another pod grow log in the picture forum to look at. You're right, maybe by the time Mycotek has sold a couple of hundred the price will start coming down, there definitely isn't very many fungus grow systems out there!!! A good way to create some competition for mycotek service and the pod is for one of these syringe suppliers that's making bank off of the newbies to research and market a retrofit kit for one of these hydro units, either the ebb and flow system or the Aquafarm..... It would take a year maybe to do all the research necessary to try to find the ideal size (cropping surface vs. total cubic area) and necesarry modifications, but in the end I'm sure they could get you something pretty damn nice for between $80-$140 total with modifications and shipping (which is expensive for mycotek too). Any takes PF? They haven't done shit in forever, damn they still only sell 1 strain of syringe I think. Anyways, hope there's no hard feelings and I'm really glad to be here, sorry if I pissed anybody off. I just broke my heel (sheared the cup of my heel clean off) last week and have been in a lot of pain (still am actually, fucking nerve damage). And me I don't like to take prescription painkillers, I just drink and smoke more buddha when I'm broken or hurt. So again, sorry if I have been a pain in anybody's ass during the last week or so, far too much time on my hands.
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: JackMehoff]
#577571 - 03/13/02 01:14 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jack;
you see, I've not been around in a significant way (I'd look here every couple months or so the last couple years, but never even got a username because I didn't grow until 2 month ago) to hear these things about mycotek service and as he's called macman or whatever, so it just seemed like you were ripping away at him and me (for being a very happy pod user) for no reasons at all. I am so glad that everyone in this forum that somehow got pulled into the negativity (however it happened, that doesn't matter) is now completely out (including me, I was a big part of that negativity and I'm sorry bout that); and is really turning this post around and back into the intelligent and somewhat (?) dignified forum that it should be. How dignified a bunch of weed smokers and shroom growers can be is another thing altogether, but damn we've sure made a lot of progress in the last 4 or 5 days huh? And we seem to be getting very close to the main topic of this post, maybe someday the person who posted it will get back to us and we can compare yields, etc to the Hydrapod to see who's boss!!! Or is it the same person as the post in the picture section? Damn I'm stoned right now, is it 4:20 soon????
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Papa_Bear]
#577579 - 03/13/02 01:38 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now this is exactly how I feel , right on papa bear. Cash does rule, even though it maybe shouldn't always. I've seem the aquafarm system actually used in a walk in closet, one side had six of them, each a different strain of great ganja. The other side had clothes!!!! Too phat. I knew it was close to the pod, but for me I took one look at the parts list and knew it would take me near 10 hours. I'd be all stoned and miss one of those 20 something steps, or get 1 incorrect part at Menards (can't resist being all stoned before going in there, there are some crazies there) and fuck up everything. I can never resist getting all high when building shit like this, especially shit to grow other illegal shit. Hell it took me near 6 hours to build one of my incubators (a huge 7 gal incubator on wheels, holds between 36-50 something jars depending on the size; and fits under the bed), I was all stoned cutting and bending metal, welding, painting. Buying a load of distilled waters from Walmart, heating up the fucking water. Everything took forever because I was being my usual wasted ass perfectionist self. It's so fun though, I shouldn't complain. Speaking of Aquafarms though I know it's kinda off topic but I'm thinking of getting one of these things to grow a single ganja plant for myself (I know a guy that has some great N.L. # 5 clones that I could get for free), does anyone have any recent experience with any of the premade units that places like the one Jack posted above sell? The smaller bucket looking ones I mean, they look nice for a med/lrg christmas tree in the closet. Love to get one of those going to puff on in a couple months!!!
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: MeneerCactus]
#577709 - 03/13/02 08:10 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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easy there you flower growin hippie 
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: HumboldtHort]
#577816 - 03/13/02 10:48 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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HumboldtHort writes:
"It seems like every other sentence has to relate to the hydra-pod and/or how some tek won't work unless it involves the hydra-pod. I'm sick of hearing about the thing. Now let's talk about growing already."
I know you are new here, so I will help you out. If you are sick of hearing about the thing, a very effective preventative measure would be to stop clicking on posts with titles such as "hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod".
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Phred]
#577828 - 03/13/02 11:20 AM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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A moment of clarity. Thanks
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Re: Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod [Re: Kindnug]
#577855 - 03/13/02 12:04 PM (22 years, 6 months ago) |
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I find it strange that the majority of your posts were alternating with mcman's posts and in support of mcman. I am a dork, let us do a little statistical analysis:
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your posts, and their breakdown as to support pod / unrelated
Hydro-pod blueprints how to make a hydro-pod thread:
6 posts, all in defense of the pod
Hydroponic Mushrooms:
10 posts, all in defense of the pod
Cubensis Strains (lengthy Compilation)
1 post, nothing to do with the pod
Aquafarm Grow Log
1 post, defending the mcman
Review all ye pros! Hydroponic water supply..
1 post, nothing to do with the pod.. (see below note # 1)
Nighted's Gro-Brick Substrate Experiment
1 post, picking up the fight after mcman stepped down
so you have a 90% pod/mcman defense percentage and a 10% somewhat unrelated percentage..
your first 6 posts are all in defense of pod/mcman
now, the post times and some brief analysis:
if you look at your post times
first, if you compare your post times and mcmans, they interleave extremely well. When mcman has been away for an hour or so, you get on and post.. This could be easily explained away and so does not necessarily mean anything, however it does not exonorate you from being a potential sock puppet.
you took a break over the weekend, and mcman slowed down his posting over the weekend.. this to me means little.. however you both did not post on sunday..
Threads:
nearly all the threads you have posted in are threads where mcman has posted, and the two of you often stand alone against the opposition.
note # 1: this post strangely references the need to clean larege quantities of geolite.. which would not make sense if you only used the pod.. but would if you made the pod.. especially when you need to use a high pressure power washer to get the job done.. personally I would not reccomend use of a car wash hose for this.. all the ones I have seen use the same hose/nozzle for the cleaning agents..
General note:
in several of your posts you make reference to the materials and time involved in construction and design of the mcpod or hydra (and damnit.. how is it a HYDRA pod? hydra: many headed or branched.. hydro: having to do with water..). This, to me at least, seems strange. You could only know this through hearsay from someone who has been dishonorable in the past.
in your defense, your writing style is slightly different from mcman's, however that is easily simulated. You talk about things which i have not seen mcman mention, however i have not seem mcman mention much besides self touting propaganda and patronizing support coupled with more egoist rhetoric.
now, damnit.. my only point with all this is the following:
you are a newbie to this site, and as such you have not earned any respect. You are neutral in a sense, untill you open your mouth. You have taken a side. Most unfortunately it is a side which has a been tarnished in the past.
I personally do not care if you are or are not a sockpuppet. Be you either, it changes nothing but the honor of the poster. If you are, then that only denigrates further mcman and what trust one may have for him. If not, then your just comeing off as a blind follower.
Mcman lost much respect and the trust of many people through his actions, and even claimed to leave this site forever. He appears to be knowledgeable but misled.
I am bored, and sick of all the flameing. DO NOT SAY SHIT WITHOUT SOMETHING TO BACK IT UP. data, rigour. enough of the flames! enough!
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