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 psilocyber
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 Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 
#397063 - 09/17/01 07:51 PM (23 years, 26 days ago) |
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DarK_SavioR
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 Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398570 - 09/19/01 09:08 PM (23 years, 24 days ago) |
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170 bucks? Thats insane... does it do any tricks? heh, Nothing against it but I wouldn't pay that much. I wanna see the results to see how it compares to other setups. Do you have to fan or anything like that with that hydrapod? I'm gonna read up on it, but for $170 I could almost build 8 of my current automated setups. ($3 for 72qt container, $2 for hose, $2 for hose connectors, $15 for cool mist humidifier, and a few bucks for plexi glass... still putting it togethor, heh. Need my plexi glass and I'm waiting on my humidifier I got for $8 on ebay to come in) I'm cheap, but thats a good thing ;)
Looking forward to see the results... curious.
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: DarK_SavioR]
#398576 - 09/19/01 09:16 PM (23 years, 24 days ago) |
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dar, or you could just case some substrate in the bottum of a styrofoam cooler, expose itto 12 hours of flourescent light per day and air it out for a once or twice daily misting. mcman is a clever conartist.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: holographic mind]
#398592 - 09/19/01 09:32 PM (23 years, 24 days ago) |
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Its a completletly automated cake system! Come on! What more could you ask for?
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: phrozendata]
#398599 - 09/19/01 09:38 PM (23 years, 24 days ago) |
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I'd probably ask for a refund after finding out I paid $170 for a 5 gallon bucket, fish tank pump, and about a buck worth of molded plastic.... oh ya, and the timer ; ) Oh well, everybody's out to make a buck anymore. I guess its the consumer's responsibility to do research before purchasing stuff like that
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
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#398662 - 09/19/01 10:29 PM (23 years, 24 days ago) |
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398738 - 09/20/01 12:04 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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I'm quite interested in how this comes along... I'm wondienr if those pellets are actually causing a reverse effect on the cake. The higher ones being dry and wicking moisture out of the cake.. (Like that makes any sense) The fact that the pod doesn't have built in heating or cooling is the thing that really suprised me.. Yes, 170$ is alot for what you get, but its your choice to buy it or not. If you don't want it, don't buy it. IT's as simple as that.
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DarK_SavioR
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: jheck]
#398740 - 09/20/01 12:10 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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I like to criticize first.... I'm only half serious when I'm mouthing off ; ) Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. Did you buy one or something?
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: Jared]
#398741 - 09/20/01 12:10 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah and if people want to say why its a ripoff, they can list the reasons why, even if it is stupid.
 Time for a cigarette.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: CACA]
#398746 - 09/20/01 12:18 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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heh, sorry... I hate when people go after vendors with negative opinions, guess I'm a hipicrit : )~ I didn't know that thing cost so much until just then and the thread was in front of me to post my opinion, so I did..... if this stuff was in consumer reports, that definately wouldn't be a best buy though ; )
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
Long Live The Free Spore Ring!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398894 - 09/20/01 04:58 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398909 - 09/20/01 05:37 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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people dont charge for what it is, they charge for what it does or can do....
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NDK
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: 40oz]
#398927 - 09/20/01 06:13 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah so surely it is a waste of money then. A 5 buck storage container with a hole in it + a cheapo humidifier will do exactly the same thing - let cakes grow without any human action. I still use my first setup when I do cakes and I only open it to pick.
I suppose the the dome thing looks cool but can be picked up at a garden centre for literally less than ?1.
Still, if you have the money, why not get something ready made that works.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: NDK]
#399010 - 09/20/01 10:09 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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I don't want to offend anyone here but I have to ask why the reason you are you using such a sorry cake for this test? I have seen healthier looking cakes than that one thrown out for garbage. Why aren't you using a healthy cake I wonder? Was that the only one you had to choose from? That one looks pretty sad from what I can see. I don't think it will do anything in there. but that's just my opinion.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#399032 - 09/20/01 11:08 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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#399055 - 09/20/01 11:31 AM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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NDK
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NuShroom - don't take offence but are you getting something out of all this? It's just that linked post sounds like an advert for McMann. Even accepting that you did manage to spend "12 hours and $125" on making your copy one has to ask why the hell you didn't just change the design so it was way cheaper!? Those domes are just vegetable bells and come in packs of 3 for $5 at my local garden centre, 5 gallon buckets aren't much more.
You can humidify a $5 storage box with wet perlite for virtuallty nothing and sit the cakes on it if you believe that hydration thru contact theory. You want air movement? You use an air pump. You feel richer you use an ultrasonic humidifier which does air and moisture all in one. Timers are pennies from a chain store.
Personally I don't buy into the importance of all that air entrainment stuff for cakes - I mean have you actually used a CO2 sensor to see what the levels get like for 10 cakes in a given box volume? For a big commercial casing then sure the CO2 is gonna sit on it and need blowing away but cakes are protuberances and CO2 isn't going to sit on them. Some decent airflow thru the box is likely to keep the levels just fine.
What about the temperature? It isn't fully automated unless it controls that too. Temperature is one of the mst important factors and this design just ignores it.
My friend (who loves to complicate things) uses a plastic fish tank with 3" of water in it, a 200W fish-tank heater, holes drilled just above the water level (for CO2 removal) and a big old air pump. The cakes sit on a breeze block which is a pretty good wick if you want wet contact. This, plus the light in the hood on a timer, keeps them at 85F, c. 100% humidity, full of clean air and lit for 12 on 12 off. The total cost is about 1/2. Totally automated. Personally I reckon he's wasting his time , seeing as you have to open the thing regularly to crop.
I don't want to put people off if they want to buy one for pure convenience but I don't believe it is any better than a much, much cheaper design. Hell, if you really want increased yields just learn how to case some rye and stick it in a storage bin with a few holes in it - it whips the ass of cakes no matter how you humidify them.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: CACA]
#399338 - 09/20/01 04:52 PM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yes, here are my reasons.
1. The price is enough to purchase several sheets of plywood, plexiglass and humidifiers to build an extremly nice setup.
2. From what I've seen it's nothing but a 5 gallon bucket with hydroponic rockwool pebbles (or whatever those are) a fishtank bubbler a timer, and a (appearingly so) flimsy plastic bubble.
3. It doesn't have a cooling device or heating device, or internal light.
4. Refer to reason #1.
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#399570 - 09/20/01 09:51 PM (23 years, 23 days ago) |
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#399857 - 09/21/01 10:16 AM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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durban_poison
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question about the hydra pod. Is it similar to an ebb&flow table? When the water rises how close to the cake does it get? the top geolite looks real moist with hydroponics geolite doesnt tend to pul moisture up that well only the roots and rockwool do this. Do you think you could turn an old ebb&flow into a hydrapod by filling it up with geolite and putting a dome on it and keeping the water level just below the geolite? Do you have to put peroxide in the water to prevent contaniments? If this is the case sounds like someone has a use for all those old ebb%flows sitting around and they also make domes for the ebb &flows with ventalion holes perfect for fans and hepa filters
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#400038 - 09/21/01 01:57 PM (23 years, 22 days ago) |
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: McMan]
#401000 - 09/22/01 04:57 PM (23 years, 21 days ago) |
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To all you folks out there bitchin' about the price/value relationship-
If you got more time than money, build your own.
If you got more money than time, it looks like a good deal.
I guess it depends on how much value you place on your own time whether or not the pod is worth the price.
10 years ago, it would definitely have not been worth it to me. Now, with a business and family to tend after, not having to think through the mechanics of putting together my own system would be well worth it.
I havn't taken the McPod plunge yet, through, as I am paranoid about ordering such things through the mail.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#401761 - 09/23/01 03:26 PM (23 years, 20 days ago) |
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#401806 - 09/23/01 04:10 PM (23 years, 20 days ago) |
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#402288 - 09/24/01 02:14 AM (23 years, 19 days ago) |
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NDK
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Nushroom
Heh, I did say don't take offence!
I do understand the concept of blowing CO2 off shroom beds, it's not that hard even for a dimwit like me ;-).
I don't buy the need for air entrainment for a few PF cakes for the reasons I mentioned but I do buy the need for air exchange. BTW, when I said my friend uses a tank with pump setup I did actually mean my friend and not me! - hard to tell on the shroomery obviously with all the AFOAF shennanigans. I do cased rye in a simple tube and a cakes in a tub with perlite & no air exchange.
I don't wanna get into a row with anyone about this, I'm just saying that it isn't totally automated. It looks cool and I'm sure it will do the trick given a temp controlled room with some light. I also think you can get great results with perlite and a tub.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#403550 - 09/25/01 11:42 AM (23 years, 18 days ago) |
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very nice...
maybe next test could be done with a more fruiting strain like b+ or ecuador
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NDK
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: McMan]
#413370 - 10/04/01 06:13 AM (23 years, 9 days ago) |
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I can't hold it back any longer, I must say it: WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY. Air entrainment for cakes - what a crock of shit!
NuShroom - quite what the connection between you and McMan is I don't know but it SO obvious you are blowing smoke up his ass.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: NDK]
#414031 - 10/04/01 07:00 PM (23 years, 9 days ago) |
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0NDK
Why do you say "crock of shit"? Psilocyber seemed pretty impressed with the system.
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NDK
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#414550 - 10/05/01 05:06 AM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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I'm saying that if it works well then fine but the air entrainment angle is pure hype - i.e. a crock of shit.
Because CO2 air layering occurs on large commercial cased beds. The CO2 emanating from the growing myc/shrooms diffuses out of the casing and tends to sit on the beds - so it needs blowing off. Cakes are not large flat beds they are small protuberances. CO2 is not going to sit on a cake is it? As long as you have decent air exchange then CO2 levels are not going to be a problem.
I've no doubt it can do the job. But then so can something 1/5th of the price and that would include heat and light control - ie real automation.
I also take exception to NuShroom's weak attempts at sly advertising for his mate. All that "I spent 24 hours and $1000 and didn't get close" crap is such thinly veiled sock-puppet advertising it hurts. It just needs pointing out to newbies who might get duped into thinking they need it.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: NDK]
#414609 - 10/05/01 06:53 AM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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Maybe the CO2 sits on the geolite? Maybe his stating of "air entrainment" refers to the way air is cycles through the entire dome to remove that low level CO2? Does it really matter what he says? It's marketing, trust me if I ran his company I'd be releasing reports that "Mushrooms are good for developing fetuses." Anything that would sell Hydrapods.
I decided to give in and buy one. I'm very inexperienced so I figure I'll make a post which contains every step of my process. From the initial setup to the last flush I will detail my experience (and take pictures). I'll let you guys know when I post it so that you can see a truly unbiased view from every angle.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: NDK]
#414766 - 10/05/01 11:09 AM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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>"I've no doubt it can do the job. But then so can something 1/5th of the price and that would include heat and light control - ie real automation."<
Well, let's see what ya got for around $40.00 that does all that, bubba. Put your product where your mouth is.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#414915 - 10/05/01 01:58 PM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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how the hell do you get the pins to form over the whole cake like that?! i have eq cakes sitting in a perlite humidified terrarium, with the temp @ about 74F. i only get a clump of pins on each cake (in the same spot).
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#414969 - 10/05/01 02:56 PM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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$40 bux.....i could work wonders.....youd be surprised....
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: 40oz]
#415190 - 10/05/01 08:12 PM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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>"$40 bux.....i could work wonders.....youd be surprised...."<
I have no doubt you could, bro. But let's say you also had a job and couldn't hover over the god damn things?
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#415192 - 10/05/01 08:14 PM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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Hell we have people here useing oven bakeing bags for terariums. And there pretty damm cheap too.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: Jammer]
#415198 - 10/05/01 08:17 PM (23 years, 8 days ago) |
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Yeah, I realize that Jammer. But baking bags? Sheeeit. What do you have to do? Carry them around in an igloo with you?
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#415681 - 10/06/01 10:10 AM (23 years, 7 days ago) |
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hey leaf blowerz,
first off, let me give you a big FUCK YOU, for "trying" to insult my name.....other than that, do you work where you dont get the weekends off?
it only takes a minute to set up a setup.....
.....wait a minute....did YOU buy one of those?
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: 40oz]
#416794 - 10/07/01 10:44 AM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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Fuckedupounces
Hey, it was a fuckin typo, you creep!
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: 40oz]
#416797 - 10/07/01 10:47 AM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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Fuckedupounces
>"it only takes a minute to set up a setup..... <"
Oh that is a reeeeeal nice answer! Just what I though. Another smuckspert full of crap.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#416798 - 10/07/01 10:47 AM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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Why doensn't everyone SHUT THE FUCK UP already?? Fuckin whiney babies. waaa waaaa waaaa.
Close this whiney little bitching post.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: Lizard King]
#416808 - 10/07/01 11:01 AM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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Why don't we wiat until fuckedupounces tells us about his wonderful system before locking out the thread? I am getting the feeling that the staff on this site doesn't want info about the pod to get around.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: Lizard King]
#416938 - 10/07/01 01:34 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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>whiney babies...
LK, i was only fuckin around....chill.....
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#416947 - 10/07/01 01:38 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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hey shaftblower,
mister journeyman...chill out....typo my ass....the "a" & the "o"
are both on opposite side of the keyboard...typo....yeah...
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: 40oz]
#417021 - 10/07/01 02:53 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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Fuckedupounces
What does the "Journeyman" crap tag have to do with anything? I would like to see the pod spoken freely about rather than have censorship by a few creeps who think their narrow little click is all that matters.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: 40oz]
#417029 - 10/07/01 03:02 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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Besides, I'm still waitin to hear you tell us about your farty dallar grow system that surpasses the hydra-pod.
Leaf
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: ]
#417132 - 10/07/01 04:35 PM (23 years, 6 days ago) |
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