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incorporating manure into growth cycle
    #345016 - 06/20/01 09:27 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

if one had a traditional brf/vermiculite substrate (except ~6 times the normal volume per colonized container) that was fully colonized how would they incorporate manure into the process? would it be best to simply case with pasturized manure, or should the substrate be used to colonize/spawn bags of manure which would then e spread out onto baking pans in the fruiting chamber? if hthis is the case, would this need to have a top layer of something?

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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: gray1]
    #345058 - 06/20/01 11:32 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

you can do this:
in your trays put a layer of colonized substrate, then add a layer of dung, best a mix 70% dung 30% verm or coco fiber, the thickness should be like an inch, wait until colonized then add another layer of dung/verm, same thickness, wait until colonized then case with your casing material.....
you'll be amazed of the results.....

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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: CLuB99]
    #345083 - 06/20/01 12:13 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

if this is done entirely in the aquarium/terrarium/what have you
how is pre-mature pinning/fruiting avoided? lack of light alone? lower humidity?





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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: gray1]
    #345100 - 06/20/01 12:35 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

It would be better if you mixed the dung with your colonized substrate, instead of just layering. Just leave it in your casing tray and put tin foil, or seran wrap and a dark cover over it to keep the mycelium growing vegetatively.

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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #345168 - 06/20/01 02:24 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

there's nothing i can add.....jonny said all

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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: CLuB99]
    #345174 - 06/20/01 02:35 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #345180 - 06/20/01 02:48 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

btw there's a reason to do layers instead of mixing...
if you have little inoculant it's better use layers, so the final substrate will support very good fruiting...
also without crumbling the cakes the time needed to colonize the dung is shorter...
all changes if you have grain spawn, but isn't the case...

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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: gray1]
    #345257 - 06/20/01 04:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Use aprrox. 1&1/2-2 pints of cakes-- fill a turkey basting pan(one of those big aluminum ones you can buy at the grocery store) about half full of the manure you plan to use-- crumble your cakes and mix well with the manure in the pan-- pour the pan the rest of the way full with manure.
Depending on the manure it should take 8-12 days for the tray to fully colonize, this will be around 7 pounds of colonized substrate.
The reason you only mix the bottom half is because it make for fairly uniform flushes, instead of little patches fruiting at different times.
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Re: incorporating manure into growth cycle [Re: dioze1]
    #345481 - 06/20/01 09:42 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, innoculating dung with crumbled cakes works well and is quite speedy.It's advantage is that you dont have to wait for your mycelium to grow thru it, compared to layering it ontop of your substrate. Remember, when you mix your colonized substrate with the dung it is evenly (hopefuly) distributed among the new substrate. Therefore , giving the mycelium more "starting points" from which to consume the substrate.... peace

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