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OfflineDinoMyc
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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD
    #85749 - 05/20/00 09:56 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

comon.. :P
someone has to have tried this.. its something like 2-3 $ for a big ass bag


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85751 - 05/20/00 10:39 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Dunno, its cheap so buy some and give it a whirl and let us know!



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OfflineDinoMyc
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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85752 - 05/21/00 12:21 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

heh yeah its cheap.. but id just like to have some idea before i go ahead.. i mean comeon.. this shit (punny fun(oh shit another one))
heh.. sorry
this shit is cheap.. but is it treated with fungicides and shit? i dunno..


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85753 - 05/21/00 12:43 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Hi
Home made compost is always better but for some folks it's not always possible to get. I use to get my compost from Home Depot. It's not bad, but you might want to check the Ph level and sift it too. There are lots of stick, twigs and other little goodies that don't get shredded up for some reason?



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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85754 - 05/21/00 12:54 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

k, thanks
ill check it out, and it really isnt an option for me.. (getting the real deal)


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85755 - 05/21/00 01:51 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

got some bags of straw supplemented with cow manure and hay incubating right now. Doing some tests with the first B+ I?ve managed to select. Will keep you informed.
Better to have cow shit than no shit at all (or my own shit for that matter;-)
?ll keep you informed


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85756 - 05/23/00 05:49 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

just checking on this, any others every try this?
mad scientist moe you there?


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85757 - 05/24/00 02:21 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i've never tried but i remember reading about others doing it right here on this board, some with great success as i recall. try renaming your post to "how do i grow with manure" or something. I'll bet you get a response


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85758 - 05/24/00 07:41 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

hey, thanks for your reply
I know that manure is an excellent substrate.. but im not talking about real manure from a field.. but from home depot.. and compost from home depot.. i was just wondering if anyone had used home depot shit (heh)


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85759 - 05/25/00 11:29 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

If you are going to Home Depot, check for Permagreen brand Mushroom Blend Compost. I have heard warnings from several people in the know that commercial composts leave something to be desired, but this brand is 100% organic made from composted horse and poulty manures, cottonseeds, and wheat straw. It says that it is the same formulation as used by many commercial mushroom growers, and does sound much like the compost recipe Stamets outlines in The Mushroom Cultivator. My experiments with it are far from complete, but I inoculated 5 pateurized quarts of this mix 4 days ago with a quart of spawn grown out on rye grain, and it is now 30%-50% colonized. It is looking like a success so far without all the hassle of composting yourself. It might be cheaper to make your own compost if you are producing large scale crops, but at $2 per bag, it is definitely worth the money. :biggrin:

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85760 - 05/26/00 05:40 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

It works great. What I've done it break up the cakes onto a mound of the dung/mulch. Make sure it's organic though. I get Earths Finest. The cakes will overtake the mound very quickly. It will look like a cloud of shrooms when it fruits. very nice indeed. good luck


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85761 - 05/28/00 01:30 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

hi, I bought a bag a while back and used as casing(composted manure) I made the mistake of listening to someones post and didnt cook it. make sure you do cook it well.i got lots of cobweb mold and tossed them.
also what lana says about sticks and crap is true.theres lots of them.get a screen to sift the dirt.
My friends next experiment will be with some composted sheep manure and hay. he's getting it from a farm. Is sheep crap as good as horse/cow?

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85762 - 05/28/00 02:13 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Hey dino,I just bought a bag of organic manure/compost yesterday. I crumbled my cakes and added some distilled water until the mixture was wet but not soaked. I looked at the the bag and I couldn't see where anything else was added ie: fungacide, fetilizer. I noticed little clumps of cow shit in the mixture which made me happy because I want to see my little buddies grow up in an environment that they would be comfortable in.
I think that it should work. As long as the temperature and humidity levels are maintained. I wouldn't worry about trying to sterilize the shit mix because if you think of cow shit, it is full of bacteria and other critters but the shrooms continue to grow.
Hopefully I should see some of my buddies after I case the innoculated miture in a week. I am going to try a vermicute/ peat moss casin.

Good luck and may the gods be with you!



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OfflineDinoMyc
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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85763 - 05/29/00 12:48 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

kew, im going to try whever i can get at the nearby home depot and keep you posted.. Moe? you there? im surprised you havnt tried something like this.


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85764 - 06/01/00 02:41 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Whats the propper PH level for compost?

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85765 - 06/01/00 08:23 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Generally mushroom compost that you get from the stores has already been colonized once by mushrooms. The resulting material is compost. I dont know if anyone else does this, but through all you old spent cakes and casings into your garden. It will work wonders


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85766 - 06/02/00 01:42 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

allready used? hmm maby some brands, but the ones ive seen never mentioned prior use.. and wouldnt that render it barly nutritous?


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85767 - 06/02/00 06:37 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Most of the ones that are already used don't state it on the bag. This compost works great for loosening up garden soil, but its no good for mushrooms. Look for a brand that actually says that it has not been used to grow mushrooms. I know I sound like a cheerleader by now, but the Home Depot around here carries a brand called Permagreen. It's 100% organic, and says that, unlike other brands, it has never been used to grow mushrooms.

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85768 - 06/02/00 10:33 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Home depot in philadelphia pennsylvania does not sell any products from permagreen nor does it sell any sort of compost. I went looking for it yesterday.


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85769 - 06/02/00 11:34 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry to hear that. You'll just have to make your own if you want some.

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85770 - 06/03/00 02:50 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

i got a bag of composted cow manure today i think ill give it a whirl well see how ot goes

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85771 - 06/03/00 07:03 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

keyzar, keep us updated
home depot near me only sells shit (dehydrated manure, organic)
they used to have compost, not last time i went..wtf


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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85772 - 06/03/00 08:36 AM (22 years, 4 months ago)

corect me if i wrong but i belive i read in eather tmc or ggmm meanchned(sp) that subtrate could be used by one species and then by anouther due to the fact that different species use different enzimes or somthing to that extent im not shure

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85773 - 06/07/00 10:05 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, I got the bag of compost and the bag of composted cow manure from HD. Now, this compost seems to have alot of wood waste, I'd say about fifty percent. Now should I screen all of this wood waste out. To me it would seem that It would get to compact that way. Also, since this compost does not contain any cow poop I am planning on blending the composted cow manure with the compost. Or do you think I should just add a bit of composted cow manure to my crumbled cakes when I case to get an extra bit of nutrition in there and leave out the other compost?

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85774 - 06/08/00 03:35 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

i had a dream once about mushrooms growing from a bag of miracle grow soil....more in a sec...

i haven't posted here in years...really since my last *intense* mushroom dream back in '97. haven't needed too since that dream remained locked in my freezer till a few months ago when it finally ran dry. so...

this dream of growing mushrooms using pf occured once again, of course out of need it seemed. everything was perfect, fast and furious colonization of the half pints. but no fruits ever did show themselves after the cakes birth. none, even after a month in a sterile chamber. so a wild hair came by and the cakes were all crumpled up and thouroghly mixed with an equal amount of potting soil i just happend to have on hand for my house plants....miracle grow to be exact. almost very wet and *no* sterilization. what was there to loose right? anyhow, within a week it was all white and fuzzy with mycelium and pinheads. and within 2 1/2 there were PLENTY of fruits to pick. no contamination. a true miracle and one that will be savored for many years to come....not to mention the original mix is once again being *re-cased* just to see what happens.



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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85775 - 06/08/00 05:06 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

If it were me, Papa, I would not remove the wood. It should not cause you any problems. You might try adding the manure though.

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85776 - 06/08/00 05:13 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, thanks Spacefarmer. I guess I am going to to mix about 1 part compost with 1 part composted manure and mix this with pf cakes, and layer this on top of a layer of moist vermiculite. After the spawn run, I will then case with 50/50. I'll let ya'll know how this turns out. I guess now I need to get around to pasteurizing.

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85777 - 06/08/00 09:02 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, found some much better compost. Now how should I pasteurize if I'm going to do it in the oven. what temp and how long?

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85778 - 06/08/00 09:13 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

And yes I do know according to the TMC it should maintain a temperature of 160 degrees for at least two hours.

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85779 - 06/08/00 11:17 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

I prefer to pasteurize in a large pot instead of the oven. Put the compost into an old, but clean, pillow case and immerse in 140-170' water for 1-2 hours. Take the pillowcase into the tub and step on it until no more water comes out. Let it cool, and your good to go. I think it was Ripper who posted a tek for pasteurizing using a large cooler, but if you aren't doing very large amounts of compost, the pot is probably easier.

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85780 - 06/10/00 04:56 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, now the question is Should I compress the compost?

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85781 - 06/10/00 08:33 AM (22 years, 3 months ago)

You will compress it some to get the water out, but when you fill it into your fruiting container, you want it to be kind of light. You can smooth the surface and pack it a little, but you don't want to compress it too much.

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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85782 - 06/14/00 08:37 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

dyhydrated cow manure works better than composted manure but it is more expensive so if your on a budget get the composted.
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Re: "composted cow manure" and cow manure from HD [Re: DinoMyc]
    #85783 - 06/15/00 07:41 PM (22 years, 3 months ago)

The compost I got from the garden center is working great!

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