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Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims
    #3403733 - 11/24/04 02:50 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

http://www.rense.com/general59/mega.htm

Mega-Millionaire Offers $100,000
Reward For Scientific Proof
WTC Towers Collapsed As
Bush Administration Claims
From Ilene Proctor
Proctor & Associates
11-22-4


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/08/nyregion/08ads.html
http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/33563.htm
CNN Poll 11-10-04: 90% Believe US Complicity In 911 Attacks

$100,000 REWARD to the first person to deliver a full mathematical, engineering proof of how the impact and/or fires caused any of the WTC buildings to collapse the way the government claims! It must include all the fuel, mass, critical temperatures, likely temperatures and their causes, energy needed to crush concrete into fine powder, force needed to sheer bolts and rivets, time calculations, and all the other relevant data in a detailed analysis to be reviewed by accredited engineers on a team headed by Jeff King http://911review.org/Wiki/King,Jeff.shtml, engineer and doctor educated at MIT.

$10,000 FIRST PRIZE for engineering students who can best prove how the buildings collapsed.

Ten $1,000 prize for runner-ups. For application: http://www.reopen911.org

~ DEADLINE: JUNE 30, 2005 ~

Passionately committed to democracy, multi-millionaire Jimmy Walter, a Democratic philanthropist, announced that he would spend an extra million dollars on advertising in addition to the $1,500,000 already spent on another advertising blitz in America's most prominent newspapers and magazines. This time the full-page ads will specifically target the New York market: New York Times, New York Daily News, Wall Street Journal, New Yorker, The Howard Stern show etc. The theme of the new ads based upon a Zogby Poll is BOLD AND DECISIVE: 66% of New Yorkers want 9/11 reopened. 49% believe some US leaders knew in advance and "they consciously failed to act."

http://www.reopen911.org/index.htm.
http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/ConfrontingtheEvidence/
what_failed_and_how.htm/

http://www.911review.org/Wget/www.nerdcities.com/guardian/Hufschmid/
Clouds0Concrete_2.html

http://www.911review.org/http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/
Confronting%20the%20Evidence/what_failed_and_how.htm

http://www.john-knapton.com/
http://www.rense.com/
http://www.americanfreepress.net/
http://911research.wtc7.net/
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/collapse/trusses.html
http://www.policestate21.com/


Walter first turned to paid advertising two years ago when he saw the mainstream press self-censoring in support of the impending Iraqi quagmire. Alarmed at the critical omission of vital information in America's leading publications, he felt he had to get the word out that Colin Powell and the George H. W. Bush administration had lied to the American people, the Congress, and the UN to justify the first Gulf War and was now lying again to start an unjustified war which would increase terrorism, create a new Vietnam, and cause an economic disaster for America. Presciently, his predictions have all come true: the war has increased terrorism against the American people, jobs are scarce, oil is running out, and the world economy is being wrecked by Bush's fanatical actions. http://www.walden3.org/press.htm

Walter is still putting his money where his mind and heart are. In Mid-September, 2004, Walter funded the jam-packed Omission Commission in Manhattan: "Confronting the Evidence - a call to reopen the 9/11 investigation." According to a recent Zogby poll: half of New Yorkers agreed that some US leaders "knew in advance that the attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act. Two thirds of the respondents called for new probe of the still unanswered questions by Congress and/or the New York Attorney General's office."

The Commissions' mandate was twofold - first, to expose a complete accounting of the facts and circumstances surrounding the 9/11 attacks; second, like the Independent Commission, to make recommendations. In this made-forbroadcast forum presenters had the task of laying out a compelling case for their evidence. The event's panel, composed of 9/11 victims, environmental experts, researchers, scientists, journalists and first responders, challenged some of the key data that had been the basis of the 9/11 Commission's investigations and pointed our many serious omission and incongruities. This event had paramount importance because earlier recommendations based on an incomplete accounting of the facts is not making us any safer, and will not protect us from a recurrence.

The Victims Family Steering Committee filed close to 400 questions with the 9/11 Commission. Initially welcomed by the commissioners as a "road map" for their inquiry, the Commission ignored the majority of these questions, opting only to explore system failures, miscommunications and incompetence. The victim families' most incisive issues remain un-addressed to this day. Their queries cut to the heart of 9/11 crimes and accountability. They raised the central issues of motive, means and cui bono (who profited?). The Omission Commission was created to lift the shroud of secrecy and unanswered questions surrounding the largest homeland tragedy in American history.

Walter has more than war on his mind. Even though he is a businessman he supports organized labor and a living wage. While in New York City to protest the Republican National Convention, he carried a sign saying," Fair pay for Firemen and Police". "The police, firemen, EMS, sanitation, and other public labor forces do not have the right to strike or even protest. I have always supported labor as the smart thing for the whole economy. He believes that the Republican mayor and governor have perpetrated an injustice on New York's Finest, firemen, and other essential service employees.

Mr. Walter main focus, his "day job" as he calls it, is using his extensive economic experience to start and operate several progressive, futuristic, sustainable and Eco-friendly enterprises.

Walden Three - Walter's Practical Eco-Utopian Think Tank

If the air could talk, it would most certainly say that Walter is one of the environment's best friends. Known worldwide as an ecological crusader, he heads Walden Three, an environmental based think tank dedicated to preserving our environment while stimulating the economy and providing luxurious lifestyle for all.

While several Walden's and Walden Two's were started, few survive and none, except one (http://www.loshorcones.org.mx/), still adhere to their progenitor's concepts. Mr. Walter believes this is so because none of those communities were truly "off the grid". To do that, he points out, you have to make your own solar cells, glass bottles, pharmaceuticals, computers, plastic, china, knives, forks, steel, transportation vehicles, roads, etc., as well as food: all the things that people consume. To that end, Walden Three incorporates pollution free (including noise) factories so people can work, live, shop, and play within walking, moving sidewalk, or electric tram distance. Moreover, the freight system is built into the people moving system, efficiency. Everything is connected by the city's broadband Internet. Every person and business has computers and free, unlimited access to all the systems from school to work to entertainment.

Walter successfully helped over 20,000 inmates in the Florida prison system and 40,000 people nationwide with his Life Skills Foundation program, a program ended by jealousy from within the Florida Department of Corrections when they got the governor to veto the bill he got through the Florida legislature. Jeb Bush then ended all programs claiming punishment was all that was needed. The result, crime is on the rise with hundreds of thousands of untrained, unmotivated felons coming back into society without enough jobs for all. I believe in 'flood up' economics, not 'trickle down'. If the people at the bottom get money, they spend it. The tax giveaway to the rich went to higher interest bearing banks and bonds abroad, not to buy American."

As a patriot, philanthropist, activist with a genius IQ (he won the prestigious Morehead Scholarship at UNC even though he had a wealthy father), Walter is parlaying his knowledge of business, finance, psychology, economics, behavior management, religion, and philosophy to build a truly sustainable Eco-Utopian society.

Walden Three is a paradigm for future architectural and biotecture development.
He is working with architect R. Edmond of HASSELL Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia, which won the Urban Design Competition for Architecture, Urban Design, Landscape Architecture, Urban Planning, for a 4 -thousand hectare (~10,000 acres) model city in Ningbo, China. Walter lived in Hong Kong from 1986 to 1992 researching to this end.

Walter was born in Tampa, FL in 1947, the son of famed Horatio Alger industrialist, Jim Walter who started Jim Walter Homes with $1,000 in 1946 which became Walter Industries, a conglomerate that included Celotex and U.S. Pipe and Foundry which does everything from manufacture ceiling tiles, pipe, and wall board to building and financing low income homes to oil, gas, and coal production.

Walter spent over $3 million running the Life Skills Foundation, a non-profit educational organization he founded, which trained more than 20,000 prisoners Florida Dept art corrections inmates, and 3,000 welfare recipients. The recidivism rates are truly remarkable. Sixty-Six percent of inmates go on to healthier, more productive lives.

Jimmy Walter is definitely making a difference, and using his funds to make a positive change for the future. A man who has overcome personal challenges, and is 100% committed to uncovering the lies and manipulations of the dangerous men in Washington now. After all, these are the same people who told us that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11; the same people who told us Saddam Hussein had something to do with weapons of mass destruction; the same people who told us we would be able to use the oil for reconstruction money; the same people who told us we would be greeted as liberators, not occupiers; the same people, the same President who told us the Taliban is gone; the same President who told us that Poland is our ally 2 days before they pull out; the same President who tells us Iraq is going just great; the same President who tells us the economy is going just great; the same people who told us the tax cuts were going to create millions of jobs; the same people who told us that the Medicare program only cost $400 billion when it really cost $540 billion."

In a letter sent by Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Underwriters Laboratories is the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the World Trade Center towers. The information in this letter is of great importance.

http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2004-11-11-ryan.php

http://www.reopen911.org/index.htm


PROCTOR & ASSOCIATES
INTERNATIONAL PUBLIC RELATIONS
Press Contact: Ilene Proctor or Angus Hsu
<mailto:proctor@artnet.net>proctor@artnet.net


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims [Re: ekomstop]
    #3403789 - 11/24/04 03:03 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

That's actually a good idea. Maybe one of PA&L's armchair engineers can claim the money, since they obviously have no problems "proving" it here.


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims [Re: ekomstop]
    #3405272 - 11/24/04 07:47 PM (13 years, 21 hours ago)

Thats a cool idea but im not sure how accessable the detailed schematics and building plans for WTC are. Then you would have to hope you can find data on the building materials without running costly experiments, which is probably possible. Id like to see some calculations made but there are a lot of varying factors when you are talking about such a massive and dynamic structure. If you look at the video, you can clearly see the top collapse on itself and the rest of the floors just came down under the weight so that would be a good starting point to look at buckling of material and so forth. Also, you have the vibrations and harmonics of the structure which i personally believe contributed heavily to the collapse but i have no way to prove it.


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims [Re: ekomstop]
    #3405515 - 11/24/04 08:52 PM (13 years, 20 hours ago)

Put your money where your mouth is righties.





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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: Learyfan]
    #3405532 - 11/24/04 08:56 PM (13 years, 20 hours ago)



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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3405573 - 11/24/04 09:07 PM (13 years, 20 hours ago)

Don't tell me. Tell this guy and get your 100 large!







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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: Learyfan]
    #3405663 - 11/24/04 09:35 PM (13 years, 20 hours ago)

Great_Satan - i dont think any of those links had anything to do with the physics behind how the buildings collapsed. while you are more than welcome to believe that islam is evil, I don't think there any any quotes in the Qu'ran that will win you that $100,000!


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: Krishna]
    #3406037 - 11/24/04 11:13 PM (13 years, 18 hours ago)

Here's a link to a documentary that's supposed to be good covering this topic.

http://www.911inplanesite.com/


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: bfeverish]
    #3406381 - 11/25/04 12:31 AM (13 years, 17 hours ago)



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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: usefulidiot]
    #3406539 - 11/25/04 12:54 AM (13 years, 16 hours ago)

I don't see how you can pull of a hoax like that with hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses, dozens of people filming it, without the knowledge of the entire administration of New York City, and without and credible non-moonbat motive.

"Hey 20,000 people who work in the World Trade Center, don't mind us we're with the government and we are just here to plant thousands of tons of explosives at key places to blow up the building! Jeeze, now where do we put all this stuff?"

Yeah, and they are going to blow the Pentagon too and crash an airplane in Pennsylvania. sure.


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3406567 - 11/25/04 01:01 AM (13 years, 16 hours ago)

Quote:

I don't see how you can pull of a hoax like that with hundreds of thousands of eye witnesses, dozens of people filming it, without the knowledge of the entire administration of New York City, and without and credible non-moonbat motive.




by having key figures inside high-end government, banking and media establishments working for you to help you repeatedly and therefore more effectively push the desired perception of the event onto the population..and basically hope they buy into it.

Where exactly does one draw the line between moonbat and non-moonbat? Would you be able to hold the position that it is 100% impossible that 9/11 is conspiracy?


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: ekomstop]
    #3406604 - 11/25/04 01:15 AM (13 years, 16 hours ago)

I wish the winner would also include how the two WTC attacks made them tear down WTC 7 in a period of panic and terror attacks. That part of it never really made sense, they mentioned it briefly on Sept. 11th, that WTC 7 had fallen or been torn down, but they seem to ignore it for the most part


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims [Re: ekomstop]
    #3407383 - 11/25/04 09:06 AM (13 years, 8 hours ago)

LMAO, it gets better and better.

It might also interest you to know a company is offering $100,000 to the person who can recreate the Kennedy Assasination.

...To prove Oswald was the lone gunman.

Far more entertaining than this thread...

BTW, Yasser Arafat was poisoned by the CIA for sleeping with Julia Roberts... :eek:


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Claims [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #3407638 - 11/25/04 11:45 AM (13 years, 5 hours ago)

That has been done numerous times. History Channel (Maybe Discovery Channel?) dida 3 hour special on it using the latest in forensic technology, a military sniper and a totally recreated scene.


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: SoopaX]
    #3407734 - 11/25/04 12:47 PM (13 years, 4 hours ago)

Osama bin Laden admitted responsibility.


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3408915 - 11/25/04 07:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"Hey 20,000 people who work in the World Trade Center, don't mind us we're with the government and we are just here to plant thousands of tons of explosives at key places to blow up the building! Jeeze, now where do we put all this stuff?"

they had all the time they needed to plant the explosives after the first WTC bombing in 1993, the building was completely evacuated for some time.


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: chodamunky]
    #3408975 - 11/25/04 07:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There were no explosives.


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3409020 - 11/25/04 07:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

and there was a passport found at ground zero


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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: usefulidiot]
    #3409076 - 11/25/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Millionaire Offers $100,000 For Scientific Proof WTC Towers Collapsed As Bush Administration Cla [Re: chodamunky]
    #3409211 - 11/25/04 08:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

chodamunky said:
"Hey 20,000 people who work in the World Trade Center, don't mind us we're with the government and we are just here to plant thousands of tons of explosives at key places to blow up the building! Jeeze, now where do we put all this stuff?"

they had all the time they needed to plant the explosives after the first WTC bombing in 1993, the building was completely evacuated for some time.




So they put enough explosive in the Twin Towers to blow up half of Manhatten 8 years in advance?


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