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Offlinehongomon
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Re: Proof? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1291188 - 02/08/03 01:16 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

No,  I  say tom-ay-toe.

But I catch yer drift.  :smirk: 

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Re: Proof? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1291409 - 02/08/03 03:14 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Well yea, actually, Geraldo comes to mind


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Re: Proof? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1291895 - 02/08/03 06:56 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

What I meant was that I was complaining about that war, too. Clinton was just as wrong for going into that war as Bush is for pushing war with Iraq.


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Re: Proof? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1291989 - 02/08/03 07:32 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Bush is attacking a bad man and Clinton was protecting bad men.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1291991 - 02/08/03 07:33 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Clinton screwed an intern. Bush is screwing the country.


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Re: Proof? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1292053 - 02/08/03 08:05 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Nice.  Its funny cause its true. :grin:


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Re: Proof? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1292079 - 02/08/03 08:19 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Clinton screwed and intern and a country.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1295777 - 02/10/03 06:51 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

The international view is swaying against the war...
More inspections are being called for.

Gee, could this be because the "evidence" was anything but? And yet as people realise this war is not nescessary, i bet the states starts the attack within a week...


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Re: Proof? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1296186 - 02/10/03 09:19 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Bush is screwing the country.



Fortunately the majority of this country disagrees with you.

Which is why Bush will be elected for a second term and the Republicans will maintain control of the House, Senate, and Supreme Court for a good long time to come.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1296451 - 02/10/03 10:47 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Internation view is swaying against war huh, and you got that information from a CNN POLL didn't you? You should know what the station's bias is before you take it literally. Those polls MEAN JACK SHIT. I heard a poll that CNN did a couple days ago saying : DID YOU THINK THE COLUMBIA DISASTER WOULD HAPPEN? 51% Yes 49% or some numbers like that a lot said yes though, but do you see how stupid this is.

I hope they fucking attack, the war will be over soon after it starts. HELL FROM ABOVE then the Iraqi troops will surrendur. The hard core ones will prolly drop back and use women and children as shields against the US. FUCK IRAQ, I'm sick of their shit. And if you don't agree or anybody agree with me, fine. Everyone in my family has had a Barmitzvah in Israel and I was told I was gonna have one there too, BUT SINCE FUCKHEADS LIKE SADDAM WHO FUCK WITH ISRAEL along with other muslim militants and Afghan warlords, I CAN'T. AND KILLING INNOCENT PPL IN HIS OWN FUCKING COUNTRY. Fuck, I just want to know Saddam is dead. The world will be a better place without that man.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1297179 - 02/10/03 02:42 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Hey man, if you are all for war, that's cool, and if you feel so strongly about seeing Sadaam dead, why don't you do your part and enlist?


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Re: Proof? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1297535 - 02/10/03 04:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

when through with college I will. I'd rather go in as an officer than start from dirt.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1297546 - 02/10/03 04:47 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

But they need your help now, you can always come back and go to college, hell, Uncle Sam will even fit the bill.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1297671 - 02/10/03 05:32 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

that's ok. I wouldn't wanna be fighting on the front line. Rather be in some hospital in that'd take care of the ppl sent back.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1297703 - 02/10/03 05:40 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

See, that's the problem that I have with most "pro war" people, they're all for the war until its their turn to shoot or get shot.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1297718 - 02/10/03 05:46 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Good point. It's always the most cowardly bastards like Bush who are most gung ho for war. A man who shit himself when faced with the prospect of going to Vietnam and so yellow-bellied that on Sep 11 he hid in a hole in the ground a mile deep shitting himself for 11 hours.


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Re: Proof? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1298123 - 02/10/03 09:46 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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so yellow-bellied that on Sep 11 he hid in a hole in the ground a mile deep shitting himself for 11 hours.



Actually, he did the right thing not running back to Wash. It's important for the Pres to survive even if you don't like him. And unless you have access to some inside info, I doubt he shit himself.


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Re: Proof? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1298658 - 02/11/03 04:26 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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And unless you have access to some inside info, I doubt he shit himself. 


Shit himself, probably not.

Do a big fat line cause the stress was too much, I wouldn't be suprised. :grin:


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Re: Proof? [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1298668 - 02/11/03 04:30 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

pinky: When Iraq ventures beyond its borders again, it would be better for the US to stay out of it completely.
Echo: Straw man. Nobody is arguing that he shouldn't be repelled if he takes offensive action against another sovereign nation.

Repelled by whom? Why not let the Europeans handle it this time? As you point out later in your post, "it is not my responsibility to pay for your security, or anybody else's. "

Echo: Why is it that when it comes to giving international aid so that people in developing nations can have food, clean water, medical care, education, etc. you are VEHEMENTLY against it, saying that this is big government at its worst, that it is a misappropriation of STOLEN taxpayer money. But when it comes to spending HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS (much more than any aid programs out there, I can assure you) on a war which will kill thousands of innocent civilians, you change your tune suddenly and take the stand that America should do right by the world and do what has to be done, whether it affects us directly or not.

Where have I ever said that the US should invade Iraq? Not only have I never said that, I have stated here repeatedly that I am not convinced it is the correct thing for the US to do at this time. I have stated here repeatedly that the US has no obligation to do so. In this thread I have merely pointed out that if the US declines to push the issue of Iraq living up to the terms of its surrender agreement, no one else will, and speculated as to what the likely results of allowing Iraq to get away with it will be.

Echo: It can be summed up by what I call the Pinky Doctrine:
"That which results in the humiliation, degradation, abuse, or death of the weak, poor, and downtrodden is acceptable, and sometimes even desirable."


Now that's just being stupid. You know full well that I hold no such views. The "humiliation, degradation, abuse, and death" of the unfortunates of this world are (when not the result of accidents of nature) the result of Statist policies by Statist governments. If there is anyone who is an anti-Statist in this forum, it's me. My "doctrine" is a simple one -- the initiation of physical force (or fraud) against another is strictly forbidden; force may rightfully be resorted to only in retaliation, and only against the initiator(s). Please explain to us how leaving people alone "results in the humiliation, degradation, abuse, and death" of innocents.

Echo: Because according to your Randian delusions, those who are poor or weak INHERENTLY DESERVE to be.

Again, not so, as you well know. There are some who are in tough circumstances through no fault of their own. It was certainly not the fault of Ivan Ivanovich that he happened to be born in the USSR, or the fault of Wu Li that he was born in China, or the fault of Tammy Peterson that she was born with Down's Syndrome, or the fault of Prahmet Singh that a monsoon wiped out his village, or the fault of Achmed Faisal that Saddam Hussein's troops invaded his country. But neither is it YOUR fault. You and I are neutral observers who may choose to assist one or all of those people. Just as they didn't choose to be in the situations they are in, neither did you choose to be in the situation of being forced to sacrifice in order to "assist" them. It's not your fault they are unfortunate, but it's also not your fault that you are fortunate.

Echo: Because according to your Randian delusions, those who are poor or weak INHERENTLY DESERVE to be.

And according to your Marxist delusions, those who are financially comfortable and healthy INHERENTLY DESERVE to be plundered.

Echo: In any event, to borrow your own well-worn arguments, it is not my responsibility to pay for your security, or anybody else's.

Agreed. How can anyone honestly think otherwise?

America has had a less-than-enviable history as the world's policeman...

That's because they are the ONLY "policeman" out there. How enviable was the USSR's history of policing the world?

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Re: Proof? [Re: Xlea321]
    #1299800 - 02/11/03 10:31 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Good point. It's always the most cowardly bastards like Bush who are most gung ho for war. A man who shit himself when faced with the prospect of going to Vietnam and so yellow-bellied that on Sep 11 he hid in a hole in the ground a mile deep shitting himself for 11 hours.




Both of you should stop bitching, its my life not yours.


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