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      I love love. It's a good thing. I'm talking about loving a woman. Nothing else, so don't turn this into a gay pride or save the rainforest/children of the world type thread. I think I need to get this moved the the Pub, cause then that last sentence would apply even more. I don't mean being "in love" though, oh no. I'm pretty sure that is just an emotion that I am not suitably built to produce, for some reason I do not know.





        I think that's why monogamy never really works out all that great for me. I am capable of having love for plenty ladies but I never can fall in love with them. When you realize what love really is, it's hard to. It's simply a chemical in your brain. You are attracted to some other person, your brain releases combinations of chemicals that produce the sensation of "love", you let this continue, it get's stronger, your brain becomes addicted to this feeling and it's too late,you are in love.






        Love is like heroin, people; don't fool yourselves. And in fact, just as dangerous. Think about all the people that have died or done crazy shit over it, history wouldn't even be the same if men didn't get their minds clouded with pussy. Some of the greatest rulers of all time fucked up and let some chick be their downfall. It's kinda funny to me. I just don't get it. How you see people looking all shitty and sick like a fucking puppy walking around all broke down inside. Ha, you fail to realize just how congruent you are to a common junkie. There is nothing wrong with love. I love to give and recieve it. I don't like to be IN love though, and actually now that I think of it, that's a good way to describe it, "being IN LOVE", I don't want to be in it, I don't want to enveloped in it.





It will blind you to a lot of things. Especially the main reasons why you shouldn't be IN love, if there are any reasons. But trust me, there's always reasons. It's alright to feel it just don't let it control your actions. Don't become a junkie.




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I dunno.. I think it sounds like you got burned and or feel hurt... love is the point of life... I like being bitter, but I hang in there because somehow I love SOMETHING about my life, whether it be women or otherwise.. I think you may have gone overboard with calling love dangerous, but maybe not..Without love what will there be for you? sex? money? fun? drugs? it will fill the void for a while, but I always go back to

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I think it sounds like you got burned and or feel hurt

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I love love. It's a good thing. I'm talking about loving a woman. Nothing else, so don't turn this into a gay

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I don't mean being "in love" though, oh no. I'm pretty sure that is just an emotion that I am not suitably built to produce, for some reason I do not know.I am capable of having love for plenty ladies but I never can fall in love with them. When you realize what love really is, it's hard to.

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Love is like heroin, people; don't fool yourselves. And in fact, just as dangerous. Think about all the people that have died or done crazy shit over it, history wouldn't even be the same if men didn't get their minds clouded with pussy. Some of the greatest rulers of all time fucked up and let some chick be their downfall.

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I don't like to be IN love though, and actually now that I think of it, that's a good way to describe it, "being IN LOVE", I don't want to be in it, I don't want to enveloped in it. It will blind you to a lot of things.

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It's alright to feel it just don't let it control your actions. Don't become a junkie.

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Sounds like you are afraid of not being in command over your own life. Your loss of respect for "great leaders" who you think fail when they get involved with women, gives it away. They are symbols of power and yet they fail. You want to make clearminded, logical, unattached decisions now, these will give your future the right direction, and you want all your successes and failures to be your own. Much easier that way. You don't want to surrender to something outside you, who knows where you'll end up? But have you stopped to ponder on how much power you really have over your own destiny anyway? Are you not constantly under the influence of outside circumstances and people around you?

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...people most often get fucked up on drugs by lack of love.

Hmm...I take drugs for fun or spiritual reasons. I'm confident most folks do the same.

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Love, with all its nasty side effects, is the foundation of the human mind.
I'm not sure I understand this. The brain is the foundation of the human mind. Whatever effects the brain (i.e. rise and fall of various neurotrannies, head injury, lobotomy), effects the mind, the perspective.

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Love makes raindeer bang their heads together, lets the male Black Widow Spider sacrifice his life and makes grown adults dance around the house singing the Happy Tree Friends tune.
Hormones and brain chemistry, my friend.

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Love leads to parents who stick around to teach their children not to start threads with casually disrespecting minority groups.

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I feel offended.

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You literally talk of love like a drug

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Get in a love-and-be-loved situation.

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Hand in hand with your stance on love are sentiments which almost guarantee unhappiness in the future.

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Think about all the people that "have died or done crazy shit" because of hate, and you will come to realize the numbers are much higher.

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Your loss of respect for "great leaders" who you think fail when they get involved with women, gives it away.

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Look I can see you're in pain but you got to understand that Love

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mutual respect, non-impulsive behaviour, dependancy on oneself, instead of the other, though a realization that the other does provide a means to express your love (and conversly for her to make you the canvas and express her love.

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  Yeah, that's actually pretty close. Good work. Thank you for thinking with a clear mind

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Okay, please don't run this thread off an a tangent. First of all, I was being specfic, I was talking about the love beteen a man and woman, that's all. I do not believe homosexuality counts as a "minority group", I believe it is a choice, not something you are born with. Nobody is born gay. We could argue about nature/nurture-herdity/enviroment and whether being gay is a choice or something that you are born with, but that's not the topic. If you would like to do so, please start a new thread.

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I'm sorry you are so mentally weak

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**You literally talk of love like a drug**
This is literally all it is. You can have everything else that makes up what you consider "being in love" but without the chemical element, it will not be the same at all.

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You equate love with the chemical reaction. If love holds no psychological content for you and is just a jolt of chemical stress to you then you are missing out on a lot of things.

You are cheapening the concept of being in love. You are afraid of the pains and loss of self-control it might bring. To me this means there is a knot of resistance within you that in my view needs to be untied within you to gain a higher happiness.

You drove your point home why you were right and I was wrong. The only questionmarks you put were in relation to how it could hamper your happiness.
I feel that your happiness can be far greater then it is when you make peace with the world, and mushy as it sounds that includes the notion that love is a unifying force and not a disrupting one, and that it is a good thing to let go of inner resistance and let down your guard.

I have marched straight through Hell on Earth for many years on end and I can guarantee you that higher happiness can only be achieved by ceasing to resist the forces of Nature, including Love.
Being quite happy is not enough: we're here to radiate in joy like a lighthouse of bliss warming the hearts of all who cross our path. And since we're not quite there yet it is a nice goal to strive for.