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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: tripdawg420]
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I have been doing mine backwards of that. 10 agar, 15 DME and 500 water. Maybe too rich. I’ll give that a try.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Incidental_farmer] * 4
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First plates of ochras are in jars. Pretty stoked for this grow.



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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: thumbsy]
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So tacking a step into ochras. I have a plate like this (1.5% nutrients), 1st transfer, really fluffy and tomentose. Similar thing in two other plates. One transfer is in a trench (island :wink:), just in case, still waiting how that behaves.



So what I'm wondering is that if that's kind of normal for these? And if it is, then I kind of have a memory that this could already indicate, that this culture might overlay like hell, or is there no such correlation at all?

It's also quite slow, but that might be just my temps.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: eilauver] * 1
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Your ochras culture is behaving more like a natalensis culture

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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Interesting. Thanks for that lead, I’ll go browse the dedicated nats thread a bit too.

Thinking of taking a small chunk to a brf cake, to see what happens. Prepping some for cake wars anyway. Maybe I’ll get a fruit or something.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: eilauver] * 1
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For the record, I have never seen anyone who has accidentally had natalensis they were growing or trying to grow. You're culture looks fine, just grow it. Doesn't need to be throwing insane ropes

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: eilauver]
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From my little experience with ochras the ones I got on agar started as tomentose thicc af like urs and so then 2 transfers changed to a mostly rhizo be it thick af rhizo that lead to a weird fairy ring pinning to happen on the t2


Interesting thing too is that ochras has blueing on the mycelium assuming it's bruising from aggressive colonization and running outa water in the agar


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono 😎

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 1
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Makes sense. Would seem a bit unlikely indeed, growing ochra when thinking your growing nats seems like a more common pattern. Also these are vendor spores and I don't think they even offer nats.

But big thanks to you for reassurance!

bloodssonnew said:
From my little experience with ochras the ones I got on agar started as tomentose thicc af like urs and so then 2 transfers changed to a mostly rhizo be it thick af rhizo that lead to a weird fairy ring pinning to happen on the t2



I might be misunderstanding you, but one thing I'm noticing is that the growth kind of leads with more rhizo, less fluffy and areal myc, at the edges, but only at the edges and when it advances, earlier growth fluffs up.

Edited by eilauver (10/17/26 02:29 PM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Incidental_farmer]
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Hey all, I switched to Ochra from Cubes recently, and the fruits appear to mature a bit slower than I'm used to. But I'm not sure, cuz the temperatures have dropped at my place.
Does Ochra take any longer from pin to harvest than Cubes?


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: kyu]
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Yes quite abit longer


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono 😎

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: kyu]
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kyu said:
Hey all, I switched to Ochra from Cubes recently, and the fruits appear to mature a bit slower than I'm used to. But I'm not sure, cuz the temperatures have dropped at my place.
Does Ochra take any longer from pin to harvest than Cubes?




Also the veil will break on your ochra and if you let it keep growing they get much bigger before sporulation. Whereas cubes most people might pick right as the veil is breaking, on your ochra you may want to wait for that growth


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: hidingbush]
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Hey people, just wanted to share my experience with this post as it’s probably the most extensive and informative thread on Ochraceocentrata I can find online.

I subscribed to a mycologist who is known for giving away legendary spore prints of exotic species. I was surprised to receive Ochras (as I’ll refer to them now)  and alongside the exotics I was after.

Sort of unrelated, I bought a “shop choice” spore print on a retailer website that is well known online for reputable species. And I could’ve received any print, yet I received their Ochras.

I made certain to grow them separately. And being a hobbyist mycologist I worked with some limited equipment. I had no agar, no laminar hood. Just a pressure cooker, still air box, mason jars, purified water and sealed up syringes.

For inoculations, I had set by still air box up. Had a jug of sealed distilled pure water that is 100% sterile. I had my scissors, tweezers, gloves, alcohol, nicely sealed up.

I removed my sterile tweezers and scissors from their case and gently open one spore print> I gently cut a corner of the spore print>I opened the sterile syringe from its packaging gently, removed the plunger and stuffed the piece of spore print into the syringe as quickly as possible with little movement> I then opened the distilled water and drew the maximum amount of water> I proceeded to give a extremely gentle shake as to not disturb the air, but to distribute spores into the solution> I then immediately inoculated the jars of grain. Concluding inoculation by removing needles and placing covers on the newly made spore syringes for long term storage. I truly didn’t know if this would work but it did and I can tell you anyone can go from spore to grain WITHOUT agar. But, there’s tons and tons of benefits of using agar.

For grain spawn I used popcorn, and I inoculated my ochra jars alongside other species with popcorn. And a week later I used millet for some more jars. Of all the species (which was 3 different ones with a different variations to further the diversity) the Ochras were the first to be completely finished with inoculation. They haven’t shown me they’re picky with what kind of grain like other species have shown me either (I have some unnaturally slow mycelium on popcorn, ochra couldn’t relate)

When I did S2B, I did 1:1 spawn to bulk, and I cased it after colonization (regretfully) I was worried about overlay which is truly not an obstacle for ochra fruits. I had a second jar (different print and source, same species) and no other containers so I used my standard mono tub but with an extremely low amount of substrate and grain: it was like a really think layer, like a flat brownie. No casing.

The cased chonky cake: colonizing was slow but still faster than everything else. The casing layer really didn’t help because the only pins I’ve had this entire time are side pins. However these are the biggest Ochras I’ve grown and they keep coming. I might just flip it and put it in a monotub as a standalone cake.

The thin mono tub: first to fruit of each Ochras and many many pins. The largest growing above 4 inches tall with about an inch an a half cap. And this one has produced a larger quantity of mushrooms despite the smaller sizes than the chonky cake. Different spore print too: different genetics. But the thin cake has been the best produced and has not disappointed. I’m impressed with Ochras because they seem versatile and like they can handle neglect, they’re truly hardy and self sufficient. And this was the easiest grow I’ve ever had. I set it and forgot it after s2b. And when I remembered, I had a lot of mushies.

I’ve just wrapped up my first flushes. I’m still rearing for more and I’ve got some other species with the Ochras in the works.

I wanted to share my experience so people could develop the information about Ochras.

Also their potency is essentially slightly stronger than cubes with a bit less distortion (?) which is the best word I could use to describe the feeling that can come up that most people can become anxious or confused by which can cause big emotions, panic, or anxiety. But in a high enough dose, even as high as 1 gran dried, I cried and was super emotional about a bunch of things. Super therapeutic and because there was no stomach ache or other things related to cubes or truffles. So I could stay focused on my inner feelings and thoughts and my body wouldn’t distract me from that. I can definitely see recreation potential too by taking a dose during a sunny day and hiking, or whatever else you might want to do.

Ochras are an unexpected friend to arrive and I’m disappointed I can’t learn more about them online but I’m pleased you don’t need nearly as much education as you would with cubes to pull it off and the experience after is rewarding in a way unlike cubes, yet still not enough to disqualify them.

I’m sure you could do some weird experimental grows with these and they would do just fine. So, take it from me, you can rest assured knowing you can do this and it’s not hard to get it right the first time, which is really really nice given the potency and experience these can provide.

Thanks for checking out this post, I hope it helps anyone who’s looking for some true experience with these. If I have some cool updates with future flushes, I’ll post the pics here.

Stay safe

EDIT: I know my pictures are lacking. I honestly didn’t intend on sharing any of this grow with shroomery but I really enjoyed Ochras and as I stated: there’s not much info I can find for reported potency, or grow experiences.

My photos started after I finished my first flush, it’s just the explanation of then you aren’t seeing a canopy (not that there was much of one due to my personal errors of casing or too thin of a cake) Still, you can see what I’m talking about in the photos and take what you can from all this experience for yourself.

Things to avoid with Ochras: if you want big fruits, make sure your substrate is about an inch and a half to two inches thick. Do not use casing, and literally leave it alone UNTIL you see the caps flatten. They will not drop spores until after the caps flatten, so let them grow as big as they can. There’s not much else. They’re really forgiving. And by the grace of God while I have seen trich in other tubs alongside that ochra, it STILL has no contamination. What a champion. And we’re going into second flush. These winners have seen a few unfruited tubs DIE, while they REMAIN. Although those species were…challenging. They becoming vectors for contamination had no impact on the Ochras.

I’ve HEARD, and read using multi-spore syringes can have a slightly lower yield than isolates or clones. So that’s probably contributing to this yield for what sizes and volumes I’m working with, that is: if the information about multi spore syringes is true (and it does make some sense to be true)

I’m definitely talking these mushies up a bit but they’ve survived and thrived better than anything else I’ve grown with what conditions and limitations I’ve got.


Edited by Cygni (10/18/26 07:23 PM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Cygni]
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These ochra grow with same temps as cubes?

Edited by divineverdance (10/18/26 10:45 PM)

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