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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: DangerousCut]
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DangerousCut said:
I’ll take that as a compliment 🤣


Oh it most certainly was, they look real sexy, nice grow for sure.

:datass:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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CaptainTrips420 said:
I got 4 agar plates with Panaeolus bisporus spores on them. I thought it was a lot larger because the foil had the print inside it. Its still the size of a small to medium sized cubensis cap from the print size. I only used like 15% of the print it can easily do 20 plates.

I think im going to try fruiting with cow manure and straw. I have some cubensis that I used this with and in 48 hours mycelium has grown into the straw only casing I really like straw manure mixture it seems to be growing faster than CVG but I still am waiting for my Panaeolus to finish the grain.



I don't have pictures but I believe I recall my bisporus and bunnell prints...most were like a dime to a nickel, but i had a few that i chose to make prints of just because they were like, quarter to half dollar sized.


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My posts are long winded and dense.
Supplemented coir experiments< Currently ongoing spring 2026.

~Agar~ 1000mL water = 1000g water. use ~1% agar...1% of 1000g is 10g.  For cubes, use between 1-2% nutes (10-20g). For pans use 0.5% nutes (5g).

Everything I have typed is purely fiction, and is purely for personal amusement.
All images I've posted are not mine and I am simply posting interesting things I found on the Google.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: el boso] * 2
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el boso said:
Happy I got fruit, not happy with the amount or size..this is pan bispo Washington and it was a transfer from a Ms plate.
If I want tall fat canopy fruits what do.i do next?




Ok....sorry for anyone more educated, and for those who have heard it.

Genetics:

Spore = 1n
Mycellium aka hyphae lets say are always 1n+1n.

You take a chunk from a MS plate and now you have a grain jar (and then tub) full of X (1n+1n) "individual colonies" competing for nutrients, water, and space. They did that all in the grain, and the war continued in the tub.

Now you have fruiting bodies. Each is 1n+1n and no longer X(1n+1n). You have effectively isolated genetics, similar to going MS (To) > T1 > T2 etc.


BUT

Scenario A) if you go MS > > T2, you are fairly confident you are growing a single genome 1n+1n in your jar, and fruits. That is IDEAL fruiting conditions. If it does well then, it should in the future. Now you reasonably KNOW you will consistently get whatever lottery you grow then. Be it large fruits or many fruits, or if they cluster or don't.

Scenario B) You clone from that big boy fruit in the MS tub. Yes it is likely a genetic isolate. Yes it on agar will likely always be the same 1n+1n you cloned from. BUT, you have no idea if grow #2 will end up with: same sized fruits, many fruits, less fruits, etc....because that isn't what you selected for. You selected for one of the most aggressive genomes that did well in that jar, in that tub, vs all of those other genomes. You didn't really select for "the biggest one" or "the one that fruited so next time it will fruit a ton" despite trying to.


====whereas if you went scenario A and got lucky to get one you deem "a good grow" you can be quite certain you will always get that good grow. Because that genome always saw the same jar and tub conditions every time.



Sorry if that's unneeded.


tldr; Take it, quarter the stipe, sterilly clone it to agar, try grow 2.


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My posts are long winded and dense.
Supplemented coir experiments< Currently ongoing spring 2026.

~Agar~ 1000mL water = 1000g water. use ~1% agar...1% of 1000g is 10g.  For cubes, use between 1-2% nutes (10-20g). For pans use 0.5% nutes (5g).

Everything I have typed is purely fiction, and is purely for personal amusement.
All images I've posted are not mine and I am simply posting interesting things I found on the Google.

Edited by Kunta Kente (01/31/26 05:43 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kunta Kente] * 7
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The tent had been running a little soggy, so I unplugged the fogger and left the fan running for the night to dry out a couple of nights ago. Came back to pins! Komodo x BVI trays are all putting out some nice pins. Gotta wait for the cambos, bispos, and chlorocystis to catch up now. Day 2 of pinning pictured. These guys are fast.



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: GnomeEra] * 10
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Bunnell x SA Wild Coast by Smoogles


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: arlo.arlo]
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great work everybody!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chris77] * 2
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Playing with liquid fertilizer supplements to reduce the amount of manure I was using, they love it, inspired by the cv+ thread .

C:N ratio i try to hit is less than 30:1.  First pic is about 55:1  no liquid fertilizer/ second is about 27:1 with organic fertilizer added, still has about two days to go. 

I have multiples, the high c:n grows cause detrimental overlay in my experiments.  The overlay issue was dependent on cultivar too.



Edited by trippleblack (02/01/26 04:20 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: trippleblack]
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trippleblack said:
C:N ratio i try to hit is less than 30:1.  First pic is about 55:1  no liquid fertilizer/ second is about 27:1 with organic fertilizer added, still has about two days to go. 



Amazing! So no manure in either of them? How do you determine the C:N ratio of a particular fertiliser product?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bongoman]
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So, I'm planning to give my JCM a test run as I haven't used it before. I have my pond fogger / reservoir, fans, timers, everything set up. Should i bother attempting to measure humidity in the thing (and for that matter, with this device specifically). I'm assuming no on both counts due to 1) hitting 100% humidity repeatedly blurs sensor responsiveness and 2) it's a shitty sensor.

I guess beyond testing out a few timer runs and seeing how well it fogs the tent and then clears it, the rest is fine tuning live right?


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My posts are long winded and dense.
Supplemented coir experiments< Currently ongoing spring 2026.

~Agar~ 1000mL water = 1000g water. use ~1% agar...1% of 1000g is 10g.  For cubes, use between 1-2% nutes (10-20g). For pans use 0.5% nutes (5g).

Everything I have typed is purely fiction, and is purely for personal amusement.
All images I've posted are not mine and I am simply posting interesting things I found on the Google.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bongoman]
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bongoman said:
trippleblack said:
C:N ratio i try to hit is less than 30:1.  First pic is about 55:1  no liquid fertilizer/ second is about 27:1 with organic fertilizer added, still has about two days to go. 



Amazing! So no manure in either of them? How do you determine the C:N ratio of a particular fertiliser product?


Simple google search, ai usually spit out the ratio, but you have to double and triple check them for accuracy.  I used 25% leeched manure, straw and worm castings.  The full tub was same recipe, but i hydrated the straw with liquid fertilizer.  I calculated all ingredients as a part of the c:n ratio including the grain.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: trippleblack] * 8
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some Weza grow.
and those are came Cambodian but I am not sure if that’s right name

Edited by Noah Keeper (02/01/26 08:23 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: trippleblack] * 1
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trippleblack said:
Playing with liquid fertilizer supplements to reduce the amount of manure I was using, they love it, inspired by the cv+ thread .

C:N ratio i try to hit is less than 30:1.  First pic is about 55:1  no liquid fertilizer/ second is about 27:1 with organic fertilizer added, still has about two days to go. 

I have multiples, the high c:n grows cause detrimental overlay in my experiments.  The overlay issue was dependent on cultivar too.





:hellyeah:

Nice grows!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Noah Keeper]
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Man, those are tall!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CarlSagansRayGuns] * 4
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biggest syans I had seen

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Noah Keeper] * 3
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Foreighn2891 said:




You sir just earned a place in the Official Panaeolus 5g+ Thread.

Head on over and do a cross post, freaking king :rockon:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Haha, I am dumb ass deleted those Bisporus photos on scale 🤡

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Noah Keeper] * 5
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Komodo x BVI multispore trays are looking pretty healthy. Here's a couple of the better looking ones.

 

I'm sure this has been discussed somewhere before, but for the life of me I can't find it in search. Is there any conventional wisdom on clone selection for Pans?

I've heard some of the TCs that focus on Pans talk about "getting good coverage" which I assume relates to fruiting across the surface evenly with fewer blank spots. In cloning cubes in the past I've looked for either clusters or things with an appearance different from the others. What characteristics does one typically look for when cloning Pans?

Just to see what happens, cloned a few. Going to the journal with the details so as not to clog up this thread with my messing about. Here's one of the weird ones that I grabbed.



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Edited by GnomeEra (02/02/26 10:14 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: GnomeEra] * 6
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I usually look for larger (with pans) fruits in a cluster that look healthy with good morphology.

This is a clone.. flush 2ish

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster]
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I'm trying my hand at making my own casing again. Last time I ended up maxing out my PH meter. This time I stuck to the 5 quarts 22g Pickling Lime recipe and my reader is showing the PH actually dropped after pasteurization. It's now showing 6.8.

I'm starting to think that the cheapo meter I bought isn't giving accurate readings.

If I stick my casing in a bucket for a week or two and it doesn't mold, am I safe to assume that it's OK to use for pans?


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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If that’s digital one is really picky device and requires frequent calibration 😎  not sure how reliable those readings

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