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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CarlSagansRayGuns]
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Thanks, found This wbs tek, seems pretty legit. Anyone ever try this? Any more modern teks?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tultedspoon]
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tultedspoon said:
This true but I did not dehydrate properly or store them properly. I put them all in the same open ziploc where they sat and got all mushy for 3 or 4 days, and kept them in light the entire time.

Is it possible enough actives could be destroyed? I didn't use my scale either, I held 2 dollar bills in one hand and the mushrooms in the other hand and thought they felt equal. I mean maybe I was off by a whole dollar bill.


:shrug: Sweet. Well, if you're being serious, next time roll them up separately in a paper towel and clip the paper towel next to your PC fan. That will dry them better than....touching each other in a moisture retaining plastic bag. That's just how you make literally anything rot.

And if serious about the "weighing with a few dollar bills," I mean....there are really readily available things like a ruler and some change levered on something to make an actual crappy scale.

Granted the above statements are some 'crackhead jerry rigging together a new pipe with household goods' shit...it's still 100x better than either action you took.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kunta Kente] * 1
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Dj_karma_magnet said:
Thanks, found This wbs tek, seems pretty legit. Anyone ever try this? Any more modern teks?


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048754/fpart/1/vc/1
I do WBS all the time the link you found is good but 18-24 hours soak without heating works best for me. Just make sure to spread your grains out and let dry for 30 minutes before you use I time mine exactly 30 minutes.

Pretty much I fill with water remove sunflower seeds then rinse I use this once its clear water coming out only I soak 18 hours maximum 24 but 18 is better sometimes I am at work or something though :shrug:

I am going to use WBS for Panaeolus bisporus and Panaeolus cambodginiensis soon and I know it works fine for Panaeolus cyanescens I just got some prints today of the other kind.


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Edited by CaptainTrips420 (01/29/26 08:36 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 1
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I got 4 agar plates with Panaeolus bisporus spores on them. I thought it was a lot larger because the foil had the print inside it. Its still the size of a small to medium sized cubensis cap from the print size. I only used like 15% of the print it can easily do 20 plates.

I think im going to try fruiting with cow manure and straw. I have some cubensis that I used this with and in 48 hours mycelium has grown into the straw only casing I really like straw manure mixture it seems to be growing faster than CVG but I still am waiting for my Panaeolus to finish the grain.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 4
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I had a couple successful growth of them on just manure and casing layer of coco/verm 50/50. Their mycelium on agar looks different than regular cyan. tho, it’s kind of olives color and doesn’t looks “cottony” . Pinning itself takes roughly same time as syans. But maturity way longer, can takes 2-3 weeks .

Edited by Noah Keeper (01/29/26 09:45 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Noah Keeper]
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Cool thanks thats good to know. I have a huge thing of straw so much im considering getting oyster mushroom spores or culture to do something about the straw. It was pretty cheap like $25 but I don't think I will run out anytime soon enough for hundreds of grows I don't have that much space for growing. But I think I will try straw with it since I have so much I have a crazy amount of manure also.

I just got a 40lb bag of WBS today it expands in size I use half the amount needed to fill the amount of jars I am doing dry it expands to fill the jars about 75% full once soaked. I got it mostly because I am trying to get truffles from ATL7 and finally got clean growth so I need grain real soon but will use it for Panaeolus once I get a good culture.

I do 4 jars at a time so I just fill 2 jars completely then use that. But that's only because I have sunflowers and remove them they dont expand the grain probably doubles in size so you get about 75% in the jars but if have sunflower seeds it will almost fill the jars. I don't use sunflower seeds anymore never had success with them.


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Edited by CaptainTrips420 (01/29/26 09:59 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kunta Kente]
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Kunta Kente said:
tultedspoon said:
This true but I did not dehydrate properly or store them properly. I put them all in the same open ziploc where they sat and got all mushy for 3 or 4 days, and kept them in light the entire time.

Is it possible enough actives could be destroyed? I didn't use my scale either, I held 2 dollar bills in one hand and the mushrooms in the other hand and thought they felt equal. I mean maybe I was off by a whole dollar bill.


:shrug: Sweet. Well, if you're being serious, next time roll them up separately in a paper towel and clip the paper towel next to your PC fan. That will dry them better than....touching each other in a moisture retaining plastic bag. That's just how you make literally anything rot.

And if serious about the "weighing with a few dollar bills," I mean....there are really readily available things like a ruler and some change levered on something to make an actual crappy scale.

Granted the above statements are some 'crackhead jerry rigging together a new pipe with household goods' shit...it's still 100x better than either action you took.


I considered this but all I had was broken protractors. I now dry everything really well. I had been out of the hobby for a long time, last time I looked into this people were growing mushrooms out of fish tanks.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tultedspoon] * 2
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Happy I got fruit, not happy with the amount or size..this is pan bispo Washington and it was a transfer from a Ms plate.
If I want tall fat canopy fruits what do.i do next?



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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Thank you, confused about the no heating part, you dont pc??

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Dj_karma_magnet]
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PC 90 minutes at 15PSI works for me. I let it vent 10 minutes before pressurized to make sure no cold pockets tricking the sensor to read 15psi.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: el boso]
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el boso said:
Happy I got fruit, not happy with the amount or size..this is pan bispo Washington and it was a transfer from a Ms plate.
If I want tall fat canopy fruits what do.i do next?




That's a lot better than me I would be pretty happy with that for a first attempt.

Some people on here say if you clone some fruits you can get mycelium that is more ready to fruit. I haven't tried this yet and I forgot to clone the biggest shroom I grew.

What kind of misting are you doing and how much FAE or humidity? How are you keeping it humid, are you in a tub? Details please in terms of how often you are spraying, how often you open the lid, etc.

What direction are you facing the nozzle, how high up, and how many seconds between sprays? I went really slow with some of my mistings and I'm not sure if that matters or not. Like I would spray, wait 10 seconds or so, spray again, etc. I just happened to test this out by chance, but then I read something on here about proper mycelium watering, having trouble finding it again, but it was talking about how first spray of the day should be just 1 squirt or so to let the mycelium and water fuse and build up support properly, and then you can slowly increase the spraying later on. So maybe there is some truth to that.

Are they growing where the substrate is more wet?

sorry lots of questions, I know you feel the Panaeouls pain and how tricky they can be. You're almost there to getting better flushes though. You've already kind of figured out how to make them pin over a decent sized surface area.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tultedspoon]
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Boso won't be around here for about 30 days


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: cronicr]
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Ty for update

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: tultedspoon] * 8
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Third flush ziplock

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: fahtster] * 1
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fahtster said:
Third flush ziplock



you beast
:hotdamn:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chris77] * 3
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Im definitely going to spawn TTBVI to bulk soon. I have 4 jars that are almost done. im just giving them a little more time they look spawnable as is though. Just a couple little spots im waiting to have more visibile growth.

I think im going to do a monotub with cold water pasturized straw mixed with pasturized cow manure and 2 CVG mini tubs in a perlite fruiting tub. They really hard to tell if completed yet.

Panaeolus bisporus still is germinating looks a little fuzzy though I expect obvious growth in the next 5 days.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: chris77] * 9
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Some funky PHV variety I harvested. These grew super fat but shrank down quite a bit after dehydrating. It’s not obvious in the pictures but they had a nice purple hue to them. Testing them was awesome, I’m guessing these had a higher % of pscilocin compared to what I’ve cultivated before. I’m definitely going to be conducting more research on these 🤣






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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: DangerousCut]
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DangerousCut said:
Some funky PHV variety I harvested. These grew super fat but shrank down quite a bit after dehydrating. It’s not obvious in the pictures but they had a nice purple hue to them. Testing them was awesome, I’m guessing these had a higher % of pscilocin compared to what I’ve cultivated before. I’m definitely going to be conducting more research on these 🤣






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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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:whathesaid:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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I’ll take that as a compliment 🤣

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