Carpo said:

Im going to be going from spore to agar then wbs. What's the best mushroom to grow thats edible, easy, taste good and looks like cubensis mycelium. Also what is the easiest cube strain to grow..

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nektar61 said:

Carpo said:

Im going to be going from spore to agar then wbs. What's the best mushroom to grow thats edible, easy, taste good and looks like cubensis mycelium. Also what is the easiest cube strain to grow..

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I'm biased, but x7x+ is great for beginners. Fast, robust grower, strong enough, drops lots of spores if you want to save spores. 

Several quotes at top of this page with links of others saying the same
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28410760

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Breadly710 said:

nektar61 said:

Carpo said:

Im going to be going from spore to agar then wbs. What's the best mushroom to grow thats edible, easy, taste good and looks like cubensis mycelium. Also what is the easiest cube strain to grow..

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I'm biased, but x7x+ is great for beginners. Fast, robust grower, strong enough, drops lots of spores if you want to save spores. 

Several quotes at top of this page with links of others saying the same
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28410760

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So far it has been aggressive for me. I just spawned it to a tub yesterday, but was quick on agar and grain. I am getting plins from it after 10 days on a plate. Should see soon about the spores and throw some in a giveaway.

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Someone should cross x7x+ with that super strong super slow growing brain in your avatar pic.

Might get super fast growing super strong blob.
xBlobX ha ha.

I don't even know how you'd do that without spores. Maybe mix LCs of each? That's how x7x, the pink-spored not robust, not strong, not fast parent of x7x+ was made from mixing 4 or 5 varieties.

X7x+ has pinkish spores too, if you can find a place where the spores aren't so thick they look black.

Here's one

x7x+ showing some pink in the spore dump.

though it more often looks like this:

Breadly710 said:

If I was smarter I would give it a try

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You are plenty smart, you're not fooling me man

Breadly710 said:

If I was smarter I would give it a try

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Carpo said:

I just have alot and am already having to buy agar supplies a SAB Mason jars and grain vermiculute ect. Startup looks a little expensive is all.

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Carpo said:

Why is coir better than horse poo besides having to break up the sun dried poop balls. I have alot of access to hpoo. How is it better besides being easier to work with.

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nektar61 said:

Carpo said:

I just have alot and am already having to buy agar supplies a SAB Mason jars and grain vermiculute ect. Startup looks a little expensive is all.

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Horse poo (or cow poo) has to be pasteurized to use (not sterilized, if too sterilized, EVERYTHING will grow on it, if pasteurized, can work)

If you have access to it and money is an issue, maybe use it. But I haven't seen that many teks on how to do horse poo for cubes, it's usually done for other active species that require it. Cubes are most often grown on grain.

Coir is not a nutrient, it's a water holder, horse poo is a nutrient, so I assume horse poo would replace the grain (you said you want to use wild bird seed, that's what I use) 

I have only grown on poo once, when I started. I did not pasteurize it, though it was field cured, I ended up with a house full of little flies and shrooms that made me sick.

I've never gotten sick from growing on WBS. I think that when people get sick from shrooms, it's usually bacteria, not the shrooms.

I grow spores on agar, transfer to at least one more agar dish to make sure no contam, or to clean up contam, then put that on sterilized WBS in jars with a little hole and a filter on the top (I sent you an email link with links to all this)

I sterilize the grain in the jars in a pressure cooker.

Grow that 3 to 4 weeks until all colonized (white mycelium), then mix with coir and verm (vermiculite) in a tub and then shrooms grow in a few weeks.

I very lightly pasteurize the coir by pouring pouring boiling water on it, I do not sterilize or pasteurize the coir.

What I'm describing here is what most people here use, it's called "bulk grow method", the thing that usually might change is the grain.

And a very few people use coir but no vermiculite. Both are, I believe, just to hold water, and have very little nutrient value. Grain is the nutrient.

Horse poo is just grain (or grasses, very similar to grain) that has been partially digested.

So if you used poo instead of grain (and I'm guessing here) you'd still want to use verm or coir (one or the other) to bulk it out and hold water, and allow expansion of mycelium through the body of it

I used verm the one time I used cow poo.
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Make sure your Mason jars are wide mouth or it will be harder to get the final mycleium out.

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