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Lovely fruits!!!! [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] * 4
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Bra said:
Ps. Mexicana Rancho Agosto isn’t producing spores for me :frown:
I wonder if spraying with water more can help.







...and if no swabbing then maybe take a tissue sample on agar.
You don't wanna lose those beautiful genetics! 🀩

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Bra] * 10
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Psilocybe mexicana var. Rancho Agosto still doesn't drop spores. I spray them heavily with water, and nothing happens. The gills have no spores. I've cloned them.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Bra] * 6
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Ps. mexicana Rancho Agosto. No spores yet. Spraying them with water intensively, but no spores.









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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Bra] * 1
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A great grow of some really pretty mushrooms Bra! Maybe you'll get spores on the next flush?

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 1
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Thank you! I hope so. I will keep you posted.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 99.99] * 6
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99.99 said:
This is how I tell if a bag of stones is ready to be harvested. The mycelium actually starts dying after a while, and you can see. It’s a different color and texture than the rest in the bag.

Stones are five months old so they should be very potent, but I can’t eat them cause they kill my gut



Used what was approximately 2 cups of wheat after  colonization
Two approximately three large handfuls of pasteurized coir
Mixed well, then cased with approximately eighth of an inch of bone dry Pete Moss
The reason I use dry Pete moss is because the Martha will add all the moisture needed so it’s one less step that I have to worry about plus it helps distribute the Pete moss evenly over the substrate
After about a week of colonization, I will start to see pins then approximately a week later I will be ready to harvest so two weeks total time






So here we are seven days later and just like predicted I have pins popping up out of this tray
Probably 7 to 8 days from now, I will be able to do a harvest


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 99.99] * 11
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Ps. mexicana Rancho Agosto - harvest. 125g wet.






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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Bra] * 1
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Bra said:
Ps. mexicana Rancho Agosto - harvest. 125g wet.










Ooooo! 😍 Love the translucent essence of those! πŸ₯° You can certainly turn on your a lovelight with those marvelous matchsticks! 🫢🏻πŸ₯³

Any sclerotia!?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: ShitdickNancy] * 1
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I will find out in the end. For now, I am waiting for the second flush.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Bra] * 1
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You're golden Bra, probably unlikely since you're a superb grower & have fruiting conditions dialed in. My best sclerotia producing isolates won't rock up at all if I provide ideal conditions for fruitbody development.

I only ask because that's my fetish 😎🀣 & I've yet to see anyone with fairly new "exotic" mexicana strains (Vera Cruz, Rancho Agosto, etc), that I don't have access to, aim for sclerotia potential. It's mostly attempts to avoid sclerotia production. 🀷🏻🀣

All good, πŸ’― they're beautiful! Possibly get some spore production on 2nd flush! 🀞🏻


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: ShitdickNancy]
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I have an ATL7 and and a Tamp print from a vendor, both a couple years old. Which of the two is the better producer of sclerotia?


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Tight Lunchbox] * 1
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Tight Lunchbox said:
I have an ATL7 and and a Tamp print from a vendor, both a couple years old. Which of the two is the better producer of sclerotia?



I’m having great success with ATL7 now, which technically is a Tamp. I’ve had stones and fruits. Got my stones first on a plate, then in the grain jars, and there is a bunch in my shoeboxes. I’m going to be harvesting my shoeboxes for the stones soon. Trying for a 3rd flush of fruit before I do, but not sure if it will produce as the substrate is getting kinda dry in my shoeboxes.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Tight Lunchbox] * 3
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Tight Lunchbox said:
I have an ATL7 and and a Tamp print from a vendor, both a couple years old. Which of the two is the better producer of sclerotia?



ATL7 is generally the better sclerotia producer.
ATL7 is known for robust sclerotia formation and larger yields in standard rye grain jars, whereas classical Tamp produce sclerotia too but typically in smaller quantities and can take longer to initiate.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Bra] * 2
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Hell yeah, thanks for the replies.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: Tight Lunchbox] * 4
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https://moscow.sci-hub.ru/5118/bc77ffacd0bc87622f17e231574d34fb/brodie1935.pdf#navpanes=0&view=FitH
By the way, I think we can officially stop calling it "psudeo-sclerotia", being that it has been published in the scientific literature for about 90 years. No way I can be salty, I think it's about time more people played with these. I have thought that for a while, but finding this secotioid form has to be confirmation from the fungal spirit that I am doing things well.
https://mushroomobserver.org/observations/574189
This photo was taken approximately one and a half months past inocculation with agar.


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Edited by CrimsonRambeler (10/23/25 01:23 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: CrimsonRambeler] * 1
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25532207

Here you go Crimson, some blue pearl appreciation & adoration by Saralove. Stellar photos 😍!


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: ShitdickNancy] * 2
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Nice, thanks for the link, golden stuff, or shall I say, sapphire?
:jolly:
While I appreciate the compliment on my photos, Saralove really outdid herself with the photo journaling. Too bad she doesn't seem to be around any longer!
I love that these came from secotioid Panaeolus, formerly known as "Panaeolopsis". I feel like that is what makes this strain such a vigorous stone producer, is because it is no longer reliant on the ability to drop spores to serve as its main way of procreation.
I believe there's something similar going on, with Psilocybe maluti, and it would be reasonable to believe they are mainly spread by birds, perhaps corvids, seeing a tasty egg-looking morsel on the ground when foraging. So the epigenitics are influencing the mushroom to take a certain shape,beneficial for its survival, while at the same time anchoring the parent genetic in the ground by means of sclerotia. That way, the birds have a semi-dependant source of food, and the mushrooms have a semi-dependant way of reproducing. It had to be valuable for evolution at some point, because we get the specific fruitng form and sclerotia production we see today.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 99.99] * 6
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99.99 said:
99.99 said:
This is how I tell if a bag of stones is ready to be harvested. The mycelium actually starts dying after a while, and you can see. It’s a different color and texture than the rest in the bag.

Stones are five months old so they should be very potent, but I can’t eat them cause they kill my gut



Used what was approximately 2 cups of wheat after  colonization
Two approximately three large handfuls of pasteurized coir
Mixed well, then cased with approximately eighth of an inch of bone dry Pete Moss
The reason I use dry Pete moss is because the Martha will add all the moisture needed so it’s one less step that I have to worry about plus it helps distribute the Pete moss evenly over the substrate
After about a week of colonization, I will start to see pins then approximately a week later I will be ready to harvest so two weeks total time






So here we are seven days later and just like predicted I have pins popping up out of this tray
Probably 7 to 8 days from now, I will be able to do a harvest





Well, it only took four days to get a harvest this time even though it wasn’t a full canopy four days is quite fast
Thats 11 days from substrate to bulk and the mycelium from Augar to fruiting is about a year old


Edited by 99.99 (10/24/25 09:55 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: 99.99] * 3
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My clone of Dutch 'Valhalla'-truffles is colonizing rye grain. :mushroom2:
Will give him a shake in a few days.


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Re: The OFFICIAL Stone producer/sclerotia thread and discussion [Re: psychedelicmind] * 1
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I have a couple questions on my two ATL7 shoeboxes.  I am getting a slow growing 3rd flush right now in both shoeboxes. The casing seems a bit dry, even though it’s been in a JCM tub. No signs of contamination and the shoeboxes are now over 2 months old. Each time I’ve harvested a flush, I’ve lightly touched up the casing by smoothing over the rough spots and heavily misted it and put it back in the JCM. I feel like the misting wasn’t enough hydration. So the question is what do I do now? I know there are stones in them, and a lot of them! Do I hydrate more and how? Or do I harvest the stones and call it a day on the shoeboxes?

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