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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy] * 3
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Don't tred on me, let's  federalize the entire police force.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy] * 3
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mushboy said:
if i had friends and family that embraced fascism i wouldnt vote or participate with them out of some weird sense of loyalty.

id be pissed they are openly embracing fascism and making me make an awful choice because they want to be fuck heads.

at that point? fuck friends and family:lol:


yeah there isnt a single person in my life I wouldnt throw to the fucking wolves if they came out supporting these pedophiles, racists, and fascists. 

while we can't legally do what should be done to fascists, what we can and should be doing is pressing them at every opportunity.  make their lives as open fascists untenable. dont hire them, don't platform them, don't associate with them, and always work against their best interests when the opportunity arises.  keep them rattled because thats when they'll make mistakes.  reject tolerance of intolerance.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
I dont know how anyone that buy their own groceries can support trump on the economy
FoolOfElysium said:
TrancedOutBrah said:
Anyone supporting Trump obviously has no shame or guilt. Those people completely lack any kind of empathy. Weird to see so many people in a cult that sucks his dick for anything he says and goes OMG YAY!!! while Trump completely buttfucks them.


And there it is.

You know a lot of us who didn't support Trump at first had a lot of family and friends that did, and we love them dearly. We'd listen to people like you demonize our friends and family for years knowing full well everything you were saying about them is wrong.

When you FORCE us to pick sides, where the fuck do you think we're all going to go? Why would I want to stand next to you rather than my family? They don't talk shit about you, they just shake their heads and wish you'd understand. But look at you, basically doing the Devil's work for him free of charge.

Are there Trump supporters with their heads stuck up their ass? Of course. But your blanket statements, I reiterate, were very common over the last few years and people just like you ABSOLUTELY HELPED Trump win 2024.

Again, thanks.



you realize you employ this childish victim blaming over and over and it never does you any favors, right?  the 78% of America that didn't vote for trump didn't make maga retards embrace fascism.  take responsibility for your failings, because being an American fascist is a major failing.

"The road towards authoritarianism has been paved with people saying, ‘You’re overreacting.’”

- Tim Walz


I've never claimed once to be a victim to anything.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
FoolOfElysium said:
I'd feel guilty if I intentionally lied to you. I'm more of a realist than an idealist, which means if reality was structured differently, I'd hold different ideals. My inner child clashes with what must be done to keep this world safe all the time. It is what it is.

Also, I can't be bothered if other people misrepresent me or my arguments, which almost every person who has engaged me has done.


Craft some arguments that aren't dog shit and maybe you won't be a misunderstood genius or whatever


I love how the standard around here is, "we will only engage with what WE consider to be non-dogshit arguments, otherwise we'll usually just point and laugh."

That's not actually how a "discussion" works, but you do you.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs]
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dinosaurs said:
yeah there isnt a single person in my life I wouldnt throw to the fucking wolves if they came out supporting these pedophiles, racists, and fascists. 




i feel like itd be like living in the 1770s and finding out your family supports the british:awedisgust:

im grabbing my black powder bag and tri corner hat:sadyes:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
if i had friends and family that embraced fascism i wouldnt vote or participate or support the same people with them out of some weird sense of loyalty because other people are openly mocking them for being fascist.

id be pissed they are openly embracing fascism and making me make an awful choice because they want to be fuck heads.

at that point? fuck friends and family:lol: id rather be known as the guy who cut ties with family than the guy who was loyal but became a fascist.

its a fucking no brainer.




I've dropped plenty of people out of my life that voted for Trump the second time around. My dad voted for him the first time around and then he was disgusted by what he did. My family have voted Republicans all their life. The second time around he wasn't going to vote for Trump, my mom voted for Kamala and voted Democrat for the first time in their lives.

I showed them Project 2025 and so much evidence about how Trump is a failure of a person in both his financial life and his personal life.

It's a no brainer about how much Trump is a failure to society. But hey, a bunch of people in a cult elected a guy with 34 felonies and the only reason he isn't in prison right now is because he got elected and is now doing everything he can to hide the Epstein files.

Cuz you know, a non-guilty person would release them.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: TrancedOutBrah]
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TrancedOutBrah said:
FoolOfElysium said:
TrancedOutBrah said:
Anyone supporting Trump obviously has no shame or guilt. Those people completely lack any kind of empathy. Weird to see so many people in a cult that sucks his dick for anything he says and goes OMG YAY!!! while Trump completely buttfucks them.


And there it is.

You know a lot of us who didn't support Trump at first had a lot of family and friends that did, and we love them dearly. We'd listen to people like you demonize our friends and family for years knowing full well everything you were saying about them is wrong.

When you FORCE us to pick sides, where the fuck do you think we're all going to go? Why would I want to stand next to you rather than my family? They don't talk shit about you, they just shake their heads and wish you'd understand. But look at you, basically doing the Devil's work for him free of charge.

Are there Trump supporters with their heads stuck up their ass? Of course. But your blanket statements, I reiterate, were very common over the last few years and people just like you ABSOLUTELY HELPED Trump win 2024.

Again, thanks.



It's not about picking sides, it's about picking a person who would do a better job for this country. Trump already showed in his first term how stupid he is and how much he fucked things up and then people voted for him again because he ran as Republican.

And you know what I've found over the years? Republicans will just vote straight down the ballot as Republicans regardless if they know anything about them because they only watch Fox News

I'm plenty sure your family would talk shit about me, just like how you talk shit about me lmao

Btw you still haven't said anything good that Trump has done. Maybe it's really hard to find some good things he has done.

Maybe it's hard for you to understand why supporting a pedophile conman is bad, but you live in MAGA cult land so it makes perfect sense when you have your head in the ground with your ears and eyes closed to reality.


You don't consider getting border crossings down from millions under Biden to ZERO for months in a row now a win?

You don't consider Trump helping almost a dozen countries stop their war and make peace a win? (Russia and Ukraine are next, BTW.)

You don't consider the trade deals he's made with the EU and other nations a win?

I'm curious what WOULD Trump have to do in your eyes? Cuz any other President in the White House would have already had the Nobel Peace Prize for how much DEATH they have already stopped globally.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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:lol:

hell no i think its awful

stop what wars nothing has stopped. in fact houthis are now attacking any ship the whole only israel bound shtick went away rather fast.

and no they are not 'wins' in fact they are way to suck more money from the bottom and give to the top.

hed have to die in office tomorrow. then hed do a great thing.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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Maybe its hard for you to understand that Republicans blocked their own border bill under Biden that would have been the biggest and comprehensible bill that we've ever seen cuz it would have made Biden looked good. Maybe you don't know, maybe you have a goldfish memory.

Trump hasn't done anything to stop the war in Ukraine and you're a fool to believe that.

Trump hasn't even invited Ukraine to the talks. He just wants Ukraine to surrender to the invader.

What countries has Trump helped stop the war?


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Spread kindness, love, empathy, compassion.

Learn from mistakes. Try and do better. Each day is a new day, try to make it a better one.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy]
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India and Pakistan: Ceasefire over Kashmir dispute, May 10, 2025

Israel and Iran: Ceasefire after U.S.-mediated talks, June 24, 2025.

Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda: U.S.-brokered peace agreement, June 27, 2025.

Thailand and Cambodia: Ceasefire after border clashes, July 2025

Armenia and Azerbaijan: Peace framework agreement, August 8, 2025.

Serbia and Kosovo: Claimed to have prevented escalation, June 27, 2025

Next up, Russia and Ukraine.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium]
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nah

unless your chamberlains great grandkid is seems inappropriate to claim those 'deals' as being any lasting peace in our times.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
You don't consider getting border crossings down from almost 9 million under Biden to ZERO for months in a row now a win?




nope.  the "immigration crisis" was completely invented.  trump and ICE have only used it as an excuse to send troops and kidnap squads into blue states to fuck with hard working immigrants.  they haven't rolled into the hood to get he supposed gangmembers and cartel whatever the fuck fantasy shit you guys thing immigrants are doing to ruin white America.

FoolOfElysium said:
You don't consider Trump helping almost a dozen countries stop their war and make peace a win? (Russia and Ukraine are next, BTW.)




didn't happen.  israel is still running a genocide in gaza, russia is still trying to take over ukraine.  in fact both conflicts have gotten remarkably *worse* since pedo boy got back in the white house.  also apparently you're forgetting the part where trump tried to antagonize iran into a war and iran was smart enough not to take the bait?

FoolOfElysium said:
You don't consider the trade deals he's made with the EU and other nations a win?




every single "deal" thats come from this regime is worse than the pre-existing trade agreement.  remember NAFTA and how pedo boy blow that up in his first term, then negotiated a shittier version of NAFTA called the USMCA and then in his second term he cried about how mexico and canada are fucking us and used it as justification to tax Americans on imports from those countries (while also threatening both with invasion at varying times for varying stupid reason).

no, I don't think extorting our allies and trade partners is a good thing, and every economic indicator is proving that his economic approach is rapidly pushing the USA into recession. 

FoolOfElysium said:
I'm curious what WOULD Trump have to do in your eyes? Cuz any other President in the White House would have already had the Nobel Peace Prize for how much DEATH they have already stopped globally.


you live in some fantasy land. you seem to have no idea how broadly hated trump is not only within the USA but internationally.  we don't have a single country out there that is comfortably in our corner after the last 6 months.  trump has burned so much soft power on satiating his ego, his corrupt greed, and his desperation to stay a step ahead of justice.

for someone that likes to drop "this won't age well" you ought to go back through your own comment history.  someone compiled a list of all of the predictions you've made and I actually felt a bit sad for you when I read it because its obvious that you have something going on.  this age of American politics won't age well, nor will the conduct of those that support it.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
India and Pakistan: Ceasefire over Kashmir dispute, May 10, 2025

Israel and Iran: Ceasefire after U.S.-mediated talks, June 24, 2025.

Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda: U.S.-brokered peace agreement, June 27, 2025.

Thailand and Cambodia: Ceasefire after border clashes, July 2025

Armenia and Azerbaijan: Peace framework agreement, August 8, 2025.

Serbia and Kosovo: Claimed to have prevented escalation, June 27, 2025

Next up, Russia and Ukraine.



and trump had fuck-all to do with any of that.  he also engaged in pointless military strikes in iran, and seems like you guys have completely glossed over gaza now, huh?  remember when he was going to solve that and ukraine/russia in 24 hours? 

funny how you think pedo boy is the president of peace when all he does is sow division within the country he's supposed to be leading, while threatening to invade mexico, canada, greenland.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 2
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FoolOfElysium said:
ballsalsa said:
FoolOfElysium said:
I'd feel guilty if I intentionally lied to you. I'm more of a realist than an idealist, which means if reality was structured differently, I'd hold different ideals. My inner child clashes with what must be done to keep this world safe all the time. It is what it is.

Also, I can't be bothered if other people misrepresent me or my arguments, which almost every person who has engaged me has done.


Craft some arguments that aren't dog shit and maybe you won't be a misunderstood genius or whatever


I love how the standard around here is, "we will only engage with what WE consider to be non-dogshit arguments, otherwise we'll usually just point and laugh."

That's not actually how a "discussion" works, but you do you.


This isn't that tough.  If you want discussion, that is absolutely available to you.  Unfortunately you just keep showing up with regurgitated Trump memes and qanon conspiracies.  Half the time your posts are non-sequiturs like when someone said Trumpy is a fascist and you started prattling on about elections and following the law, 2 things that are irrelevant to the definition.  How is anyone supposed to engage with that other than to point and laugh?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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dinosaurs said:
funny how you think pedo boy is the president of peace when all he does is sow division within the country he's supposed to be leading, while threatening to invade mexico, canada, greenland.


they dont care about those conflicts because they probably dont think ukraine or palestine has a right to exist. so those conflicts are you know.. not important to the point that trump deserves a noble peace prize.

most people whove won the npp usually havent called for violence during political rallies against fellow citizens but maybe im wrong.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: FoolOfElysium] * 1
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FoolOfElysium said:
India and Pakistan: Ceasefire over Kashmir dispute, May 10, 2025

Israel and Iran: Ceasefire after U.S.-mediated talks, June 24, 2025.

Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda: U.S.-brokered peace agreement, June 27, 2025.

Thailand and Cambodia: Ceasefire after border clashes, July 2025

Armenia and Azerbaijan: Peace framework agreement, August 8, 2025.

Serbia and Kosovo: Claimed to have prevented escalation, June 27, 2025

Next up, Russia and Ukraine.



That's 5 and most of them had nothing to do with Trump

You said dozens. Funny how that works

Meanwhile Trump is once again sending the military in the cities to terrorize civilians. Yeah. Totally peaceful shit


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Lead by example, words mean little when your actions don't reflect what you say.

Spread kindness, love, empathy, compassion.

Learn from mistakes. Try and do better. Each day is a new day, try to make it a better one.

Coconut and Avocado is awesome for the skin.

MIND OVER MATTER

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: TrancedOutBrah] * 1
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kash patel says omg crime is down under trump

trump says omg crime is out of control militarize the capital.
:lolwut:

hopefully this isnt an attempt to use the insurrection act and try to delay midterms or something fucking stupid like that.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: TrancedOutBrah] * 1
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TrancedOutBrah said:
mushboy said:
if i had friends and family that embraced fascism i wouldnt vote or participate or support the same people with them out of some weird sense of loyalty because other people are openly mocking them for being fascist.

id be pissed they are openly embracing fascism and making me make an awful choice because they want to be fuck heads.

at that point? fuck friends and family:lol: id rather be known as the guy who cut ties with family than the guy who was loyal but became a fascist.

its a fucking no brainer.




I've dropped plenty of people out of my life that voted for Trump the second time around. My dad voted for him the first time around and then he was disgusted by what he did. My family have voted Republicans all their life. The second time around he wasn't going to vote for Trump, my mom voted for Kamala and voted Democrat for the first time in their lives.

I showed them Project 2025 and so much evidence about how Trump is a failure of a person in both his financial life and his personal life.

It's a no brainer about how much Trump is a failure to society. But hey, a bunch of people in a cult elected a guy with 34 felonies and the only reason he isn't in prison right now is because he got elected and is now doing everything he can to hide the Epstein files.

Cuz you know, a non-guilty person would release them.


I have friends that voted for trump the first time around, but I don't have any that voted for him the second or third time.  if by the end of his first term you liked what you saw and were ready to vote for him again, you're a lost cause to me.  we're 10 years into 20% of the population gaslighting the rest of us about what this motherfucker is and people are tired.

every.fucking.day its some new embarrassment and damage to the country.  people are losing hope in the system because of how thoroughly he's fucked it and how much completely obvious criminal shit he's done with no meaningful consequences.  yet if you or I fuck up, they hit the door at 6am as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.

I don't know how he could be visiting the grocery store and watching the price of food go up by 30% since jan and think trump is doing a good job.  I bought new computer parts a while ago (at the urging of my financial manager that saw this shit coming) and what I bought for $938 is now $1181.  a pound of ground beef that was $5 in january is now $7-$8.  motherfucking *pocky* is 25% more expensive than it was 2 months ago.

fool talks shit like someone living on someone else's dime.  I'd bet he's someone's 25-35 year old basement baby.  there's no way he's going to the grocery store, paying the fucked insane prices we all are, and coming home to breathlessly support the pedophile responsible for it all.  it's too bad that he's wasting his life being on the wrong side of right.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: mushboy] * 1
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None of it makes sense. The guy who thinks the government cant run the post office now wants to federalize the nations police force. This is either a distraction from him diddling kids with epstine or that airhead pam bondi just became kommisar of DC. They said on the news the FBI was going to be patrolling the city. How does this make sense to anyone. Thats not what the FBI is for you fucking morons theyre the people that are supposed to be instigating gee idk pedophiles and sex traffickers and major fraud and curruption.what the fuck are they going to do patrolling the streets? How is patrolling the streets and letting police "do whatever they want" going to solve all crime before it happens or whatever? Are you people insane where the fuck is bongadino? I thought he was supposed to sort all this out but i guess hes to busy beimg loaded on pills with his lips sucking trumps ass.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
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an actually coherent rant from you im impressed.

the 'let them do whatever they want' line is especially unnerving.


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