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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Yeah I have flipped a few cakes.  And I have flipped ALOT of shoe boxes. With great success..


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefSupremeJr said:
ihansterx4i said:
when someone says "mist heavily" how much are we talking?


when someone makes broad sweeping statements like that with not context, you should be aprehensive to follow anything they say.

like catnip said, we maintain surface conditions.  how much mist that takes is an intuitive process  and should never be left to interpretation of terms like "heavy"


It aint that serious tho imo.  Maintaining good surface conditions gets much harder as your sub shrinks. It seems the sub just soaks up the moisture. I always just give it a heavy handed mist post first flush because theres no sensitive fresh myc to become matted

Second flushes arent worth the time it takes to mist em to me anyway. Id rather spend that time making more spawn


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Can you flip a cake from a tub and grow from the other side after a couple of flushes?


I do it all the time. Especially if I'm sloppy with harvesting and it looks like a war crime on the original top side.

Sometimes "the loaf" breaks while flipping but doesn't matter.

I put a quarter inch of fine verm on the new top like I did for the old top as pseudo casing. I just flip it and pour a some water on it, then put the casing on and mist the casing.


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--HOW TO GROW OPIUM POPPIES (plus tea info)
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (07/29/25 11:51 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112]
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Same. Don’t think for one minute I haven’t thought of asking if there was a way to get push notifications from these threads! 🤣


Closest I know is this:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/myposts

If you're logged in, threads you've replied to will appear there until you unsub from one. You unsub by clicking the little folder icon over on the left, then hit "OK."

Ones someone most recently replied to will appear at the top.

I have that as the link for this website, and go there first every time I go to this site.

If you have the person who started the thread on Ignore, it won't show up in there but there's a workaround to make a bookmark link that will always show your unread posts on that thread:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29287711


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--HOW TO GROW OPIUM POPPIES (plus tea info)
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (07/29/25 11:56 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
ihansterx4i said:
when someone says "mist heavily" how much are we talking?


when someone makes broad sweeping statements like that with not context, you should be aprehensive to follow anything they say.

like catnip said, we maintain surface conditions.  how much mist that takes is an intuitive process  and should never be left to interpretation of terms like "heavy"


heavy misting means big beads of water. spray more and get pooling which is never beneficial for the mycelium surface.
heavily misting a casing f. ex. is another story.

beefs link to the good ol surface conditions thread is a must read!


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Edited by chris77 (07/29/25 11:51 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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How to unsubscribe from a thread to which I have replied?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 2
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nocap said:
How to unsubscribe from a thread to which I have replied?


If you click the file folder on the left in your threads list itll give you the option to hide the thread


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 1
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I edited my post and added that, I think as you were asking.

You unsub by clicking the little folder icon over on the left on that page, then hit "OK."


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--HOW TO GROW OPIUM POPPIES (plus tea info)
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i]
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ihansterx4i said:
when someone says "mist heavily" how much are we talking?


Until your hand hurts from pulling the trigger on the mist bottle. haha

I'd guess 10 to 20 sprays, depending on how dry the loaf is. Maybe more if you're starting a second flush. to start a second flush on a shoebox, I pour about a cup of water on the top of the cake. Some people use less but remember, mushrooms are over 90 percent water.


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--HOW TO GROW OPIUM POPPIES (plus tea info)
--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
--x7x+ variety history.

Edited by nektar61 (07/29/25 12:14 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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callmehippie said:
Yeah I have flipped a few cakes.  And I have flipped ALOT of shoe boxes. With great success..


:seriousthumbsup:


nektar61 said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
Can you flip a cake from a tub and grow from the other side after a couple of flushes?


I do it all the time. Especially if I'm sloppy with harvesting and it looks like a war crime on the original top side.

Sometimes "the loaf" breaks while flipping but doesn't matter.

I put a quarter inch of fine verm on the new top like I did for the old top as pseudo casing. I just flip it and pour a some water on it, then put the casing on and mist the casing.


Thanks! So I have questions on the pseudo casing. I think this is something I’m not doing or my process might be wrong. Usually when I make a tub, I mix fully colonized grain with coir, after I mix it, level & compress it, I then take a bit more coir to cover it all with like a 1/4 inch of coir. Should what I’m doing be a bit different? Like mix the grain & coir, level & compress, then let that colonize, and after it colonizes and before pinning case it then?  I ask because I think someone on here told me that is a good way to go about cultivating APEs & Pans (along with some hpoo for the Pans). Or is this something that will work with all different varieties?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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if you pour water on top of the cake, doesn't that pool the water which is bad right?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 2
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AZ Starman2112 said:
Thanks! So I have questions on the pseudo casing. I think this is something I’m not doing or my process might be wrong. Usually when I make a tub, I mix fully colonized grain with coir, after I mix it, level & compress it, I then take a bit more coir to cover it all with like a 1/4 inch of coir. Should what I’m doing be a bit different? Like mix the grain & coir, level & compress, then let that colonize, and after it colonizes and before pinning case it then?  I ask because I think someone on here told me that is a good way to go about cultivating APEs & Pans (along with some hpoo for the Pans). Or is this something that will work with all different varieties?


You got it right.

Top layer of coir at time of spawn for cubes just as you described.
Use thicker layer for PE varieties.  :thumbup:
Casing is usually more than plain coir and occurs later in the process for non-cubes.  :thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ihansterx4i] * 1
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ihansterx4i said:
if you pour water on top of the cake, doesn't that pool the water which is bad right?


after the first flush it doesnt really matter anymore but during the first flush u dont want ur surface to pool


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap] * 2
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'heavy misting' is basically instead of dunking and soaking.

Ten years ago folks would rehydrate their subs for an hour after the first or second flush.

So, imo, heavy misting, in this context, is until you're tired of spraying.  If there's to much water a few hours later, you can dump it out.

If you're setup requires misting prior to or during a flush, understanding how to maintain surface conditions is definitely a better approach then telling someone how much to mist.  Because in that context, it is all about the surface conditions.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Ime a nice soak after first flush doesnt replace misting. Cant get nearly as good a second flush when i neglect it


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Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hello,
i am trying pf tek for the first time and having a bit of a problem. I used 2 Verm : 1 Water : 1 BRF and it looked exactly like in all the videos. But after 90 minutes of pressure cooking the entire substrate shrank and kinda left smears on the glass like this:


I dont know what i did wrong. Should i start over or use this?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: blueberrybroccoli]
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With a lot of talk being about mostuire content and hydration, has anyone ever used something like this to know whats to dry vs what's to wet?



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I prematurely… hydrated my coir. It’s been in a sealed 5 gallon bucket since I added boiling water to it. Is there any need to do anything to sterilize it prior to using it to spawn?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 1NFIN8] * 2
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Not unless its moldy


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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or smells funky


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