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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
It’s just tomentose myc, totally normal and it will also kick out fruits.  Rhizo just looks real purdy on plates.


So I could toss the tomatoes part into grain as well, right?

I did take a couple of transfers as well just to see.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha]
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Ready to fruit bag? Like an all in one bag that's already fully colonized by mycelium?


Exactly- pre-colonized bag

Edited by phishinphool (07/21/25 08:34 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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phishinphool said:
Quote:
Ready to fruit bag? Like an all in one bag that's already fully colonized by mycelium?


Exactly- pre-colonized bag



Word, never even heard of those for sale before. Neat. Tryp gave you an answer on it and I'd definitely listen to anything tryp says over me :lol:

tryptkaloids said:
phishinphool said:
1st time using a ready to fruit bag (prior PF tek guy). Got one in the mail colonized on substrate. The "instrucitons" that came with it said to stand up the bag and that way it can breathe out of the white filter patch. NOwhere does it say I should cut the bag / make slits. Most videos Iv'e seen where people colonize bags themselves they always cut the bags to vent and allow fresh air exchange. Should I cut my bag to allow fresh air and mist as necc?


Ive never fruited from bags, but it depends on if you are opening the top of the bag or not. You dont want things drying out too fast but you do want the culture to breathe. 2-4 nail head sized holes melted at sub level should be perfect if the top is sealed.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub]
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Mub said:
Hell yea thanks, I hope so 🤞

I’m open to try a liner. I’ve enjoyed trying different things. What kind of liner is recommended.



you can get as fancy or not as you'd like.  I use heavy contractor bags cut to size.  it's probably overkill but its what I had when I started and it's always worked.  liners do a good job of preventing side/bottom fruiting, and they make harvesting quite a lot easier when you can just grab the edges of the liner and lift the entire substrate out.

I've been thinking about a material that could work as a liner but could also be sterilized and reused.  if anyone reading this has ideas on that front, lmk.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: dinosaurs] * 1
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I dont like liners personally, and i cant really think of a non plastic alternative. Everything seems like it would be colonized or make the perfect conditions for side pins.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha] * 1
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boxtrotalpha said:



Grains were much to wet when I noccd it and now it's lookin kinda suspect. I'm not seeing any piss anywhere and this is 48 hours after a shake but I'd like some pro opinions. Toss? Top fruit? Shoebox at 1:1 or 1:2?


Bumping myself so someone will talk shit about my jar


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha]
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I personally like to see 24 hrs post shake but that seems like great recovery time. Shake it again.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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Aight I'll shake it again for ya tryp
:jaded:

To add: harder to break up than I would like but smelled super mushroomy through the polyfill


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Edited by boxtrotalpha (07/21/25 09:19 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: boxtrotalpha]
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Quite a few quick questions! After coming home from a 2 week vaca, my shroom sitter did the best she could with her limited knowledge and to me she did awesome and better than I expected. Of course I knew I’d lose stuff and maintaining an optimal environment like I try to do would probably not be likely. All I really was concerned of was that things were harvested and dried and that was done perfectly. However, I came home to a few issues, so here I go…

These ochras, looked a bit crazy looking. Any explanations as to why they would grow like this and open up the way they did? The first ones she harvested looked normal.









The next thing was I have two super dry cakes. Like bricks. One was a Mazatapec cake, which produced 1174g wet. The second was tidal wave which produced 457g. This cakes was dry but slightly moist on the bottom, and had a ton of mushrooms growing on the bottom. Some dried out, some healthy and good for harvesting. This cake also has a ton of dried pins and baby shrooms on it. What would you do with these cakes?

Maz Cake…


Tidal Wave cake bottom, then top



Edited by AZ Starman2112 (07/21/25 09:26 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122] * 3
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Proposition 122 said:
Conversion confusion :confused:
I only have liquid LME, not powdered.
So does 1g powdered LME = 1g of liquid LME?


Multiply dry malt extract by 1.25 to get how much liquid malt extract you need. Every gram of dry would be replaced by 1.25g liquid.

This is one of the reasons I don’t like how we use LME around here. Go to a brew shop and ask for LME and you get liquid. We make agar with light(colored) DME (dry malt extract).


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 1
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I don't know about the rest, but the ochras  look to have a low spore mutation.



You can see it here in this pan I just fruited.

And it does seem like the low spore mutations have trouble orienting themselves, they might be interrelated.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Which side of foil do you print spores to? Rough, or shiny?

I know it's not a deal breaker either way, but curious what people do. I do rough side, when I think to make a choice. I figure spores stick better to that side. Also, that's the inside (hidden) side on roll, so maybe cleaner.

But if there's a reason to use the other side, let me know the reason please.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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That's a good question. I would choose shiny side. Because you don't want any coating getting between the metal and the spores.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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Ive always done the inside layer. Never thought mush about texture.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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:thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61] * 1
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nektar61 said:
Which side of foil do you print spores to? Rough, or shiny?

I know it's not a deal breaker either way, but curious what people do. I do rough side, when I think to make a choice. I figure spores stick better to that side. Also, that's the inside (hidden) side on roll, so maybe cleaner.

But if there's a reason to use the other side, let me know the reason please.



Ya know I'll be honest, I've never really paid much attention...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: kingboomer] * 1
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I simply go shiny where the print is, and dull surface where you write
the species and date. Just something I developed a habit for without
putting much thought into. 🦊
:cheers:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie]
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Both sides of foil are fine, foil is pressure rolled to achieve a thin foil so technically there is no inside because it's all formed as a sheet that is then rolled.

Both sides are effectively treated the same way.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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If I utilized organic dried grain for quart jars to be pressure cooked for 15
PSI for however many minutes, then if I did the same for NOT organic dried grain, are the organic jars more likely to contaminate or not?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Wedgie] * 1
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Need more information, but without any presence of fungicides, No difference.


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