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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: callmehippie]
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callmehippie said:
Lol.  Foil doesn't really do much. Definitely doesn't stop the pressurized steam  being inside from getting onto the top of your jars.


lol, keep doing it your own way then.  I've tried.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke]
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Soak em for 12 hours and wait


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub]
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Just add a little water and wait some more.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
I was getting plenty of water pooling on lids even with foil. The foil just becomes the condensation point instead of the PC lid. At least that's what makes sense in my mind anyway.



I thought foil on top of jars for PC was old old tek, carried over from doing PF Tek, where there was just a hole, not a  hole with filter in the lid, and jars were pint sometimes, not quart.

I don't see a lot of it here except on old treads. (not that a lot of people photograph their PC process. I do)

I don't use foil and never get liquid in jars from PC. I think the trick is using enough water not to run dry, and not so much that it bubbles up into the PC.

I use about 3.5 inches water AFTER the jars are in, using my max of 7 one-quart jars. I usually put in 6 jars, fill in with liquid, then place the last jar.

Also if I am doing fewer jars, I put in empty jars with some water in them to keep them upright, so nothing tips.

I use hot (tap) water, it means less time to full pressure.

Do you have the trivet in the bottom of the PC? It's a round flat piece of metal that has bumps in the bottom to life it up a little to keep jars from directly touching bottom of PC. My PC came with one.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
Hell, I thought they all had the hydrophobic side. Shows what I know! 🤣🤣


Cfds, polyfil, tyvek, and micropore are all water permeable. Aparently some tyvek is waterproof on one direction tho but i didnt know that


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
Hell, I thought they all had the hydrophobic side. Shows what I know! 🤣🤣


I didn’t know any of them were hydrophobic except Tyvek Housewrap vapor barrier.

:themoreyouknow:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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cheers for the answers everyone :smile:

How do you sterelize plastic dishes? foil + PC for 20min? or more time?

also, BOD seems to use 100x15mm (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023) but after a quick search it seems 60mm are prefered by quite a few users?

Anyone have an idea on which size I should get for a total noob?

Cheers

[edit] it seems Vabiooth are also doing 90mm x 15mm size which would be close to BOD


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Edited by Tropical (06/18/25 09:07 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mub] * 1
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Mub said:
Seriously thank you for the reply. I have them in the dehydrator now but was reading different things and getting nervous.

Now just have to read up again on what to do with my two tubs to prep for the second flush. Just get them wait and that’s it? Or do I need to mix it up or add more coir?


I add enough water to the tub to cover the cake then take an empty tub and place something heavy in it on top of that cake to keep it dunked for at least 6 hours before I drain the water off and pit it back into the tent. I never want to break up that colonized cake and add more coir.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
ThurmanMurman said:
I was getting plenty of water pooling on lids even with foil. The foil just becomes the condensation point instead of the PC lid. At least that's what makes sense in my mind anyway.



I thought foil on top of jars for PC was old old tek, carried over from doing PF Tek, where there was just a hole, not a  hole with filter in the lid, and jars were pint sometimes, not quart.

I don't see a lot of it here except on old treads. (not that a lot of people photograph their PC process. I do)

I don't use foil and never get liquid in jars from PC. I think the trick is using enough water not to run dry, and not so much that it bubbles up into the PC.

I use about 3.5 inches water AFTER the jars are in, using my max of 7 one-quart jars. I usually put in 6 jars, fill in with liquid, then place the last jar.

Also if I am doing fewer jars, I put in empty jars with some water in them to keep them upright, so nothing tips.

I use hot (tap) water, it means less time to full pressure.

Do you have the trivet in the bottom of the PC? It's a round flat piece of metal that has bumps in the bottom to life it up a little to keep jars from directly touching bottom of PC. My PC came with one.


@nektar - do you take the jars out while PC is still hot or leaving them inside until fully cooled?  I could see that making a difference.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
cheers for the answers everyone :smile:

How do you sterelize plastic dishes? foil + PC for 20min? or more time?

also, BOD seems to use 100x15mm (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023) but after a quick search it seems 60mm are prefered by quite a few users?

Anyone have an idea on which size I should get for a total noob?

Cheers


I have 90mm and like them for the larger surface area. Others like the 60mm, because they fit into wide mouth jars for sterilization. I just wrap the larger ones in foil since I haven’t found a better solution yet. You can bake them in the oven at 250-300f or PC them, but you might get some condensation (no big deal) if you PC.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nocap]
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Okay hopefully this is just me being a noob who hasn’t grown albinos. Is this normal for an Albino pin?? Is that a pin????


Basically all my other tubs spawned on that day are pinning besides this variety. I’m inspecting and I see what looks like little upward facing metabolite colored cones. First thought it was metabolites but the shape wasn’t accurate lol. I plucked like 3 off and looked at them on a napkin and they pop and turn clear.

This one actually looks like a mushroom. I mean I’m sure it is one. But is it cubensis or what the fuck am I growing in this tub?


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Edited by misterswisher (06/18/25 09:13 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 6
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I
Dr. Smoke said:
tryptkaloids said:
Why you gatekeeping?
Dr. Smoke said:
  Never heard of spongey stipes with driers?  There is a reason for spongey, but it's a secret now, as well as what to do after.



Because I am attacked whenever I offer new teks and disrupt the orthodoxy.  It is my info and my right.  Progress is made only in a safe space.

I will not put up with horseshit and disrespectfulness from kids.  There is too much vitriol everywhere else, and here at least it should be banned, but it is not.  This forum puts forward as a place to learn, and that can only happen when bullies are knocked silly.  When I have to, I will happily do the knocking.


Did you just threaten members with violence?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical]
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Tropical said:
How do you sterelize plastic dishes? foil + PC for 20min? or more time?


They'll come 'sterilized', but that mainly means fresh out of the injection molder.  Still Ok as long as you don't maul them with your hands.  They even hold up to 50°C LME.  Don't melt them in the PC.

Tropical said:
also, BOD seems to use 100x15mm (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21922023) but after a quick search it seems 60mm are prefered by quite a few users?


I bought 60mm at first bc. they are widely avail;  I regret them now.  90mm also is and there's little diff from 100mm.  I do larger when I can make use of the space, like with my clock print experiment:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Dr. Smoke]
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few pages too late but i stand with Dr. Smoke (not my puppet account obviously)



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 6
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Dr. Smoke said:
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I will not put up with horseshit and disrespectfulness from kids.  There is too much vitriol everywhere else...



:herpyderp:

Show us your grows, and stop giving out bad advice.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: wavyedge]
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For a FFU unit, is 2x2 enough to be confortable?

And any vendor / brand to suggest?

Or better go with a laminar flowhood? From what i've understood FFU = the new king at the moment?

Cheers


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Edited by Tropical (06/18/25 09:21 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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Dr. Smoke said:
tryptkaloids said:
Why you gatekeeping?
Dr. Smoke said:
  Never heard of spongey stipes with driers?  There is a reason for spongey, but it's a secret now, as well as what to do after.



Because I am attacked whenever I offer new teks and disrupt the orthodoxy.  It is my info and my right.  Progress is made only in a safe space.

I will not put up with horseshit and disrespectfulness from kids.  There is too much vitriol everywhere else, and here at least it should be banned, but it is not.  This forum puts forward as a place to learn, and that can only happen when bullies are knocked silly.  When I have to, I will happily do the knocking.



The Tao said:
Did you just threaten members with violence?



Your attempt at intimidation is noted.  I do not expect mods to correct this as usual.

I am beginning to come to the conclusion that about 5 members here suck balls, and are ruining it for the rest of us.

Maybe I have about had enough.

Edited by Dr. Smoke (06/18/25 09:26 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 1
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tropical] * 6
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2x2 is fine but youll want 2x4

its like a grow light or a gfx card or a dildo.

youll go with the mid range and instantly regret not getting that bigger one.

:naughty:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: wavyedge] * 5
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nocap said:
If heat killed the actives, then how are we all tripping balls after boiling tea at 212f? 


Because we're going to argue the virtually immeasurable down to the gnats ass without the proper equipment or laying out any parameters to account for variables. :lol:

Sorry. It's just that no one had answered that.

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