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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: callmehippie] * 9
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This will be the last update on the 50/50 verm/cactus soil tub. I'm about to clone and try to print the cluster in the verm, I do see a lot of new pins in the cactus soil part, but I'm wondering if that would just be the nutrients.

The one thing I've learned about this tub so far is that I will not use cactus soil alone for semps, I think it compacts to much, not allowing oxygen in the casing.


I will also be casing a new tub today 50/40/10, coir/cactus soil/verm(pH adjusted). This tub is from a AIO jar with 33/33/33 coir/cow manure compost/oats. The AIO jar where 600ml and I spawned to 600ml of coir.



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Edited by Kloakk (05/23/25 05:16 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 13
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Another update on this tub

Growing about 3/8” per week


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Edited by EniQma (05/23/25 07:24 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: EniQma]
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When y'all say "cactus soil" what are you referring to? I can find like 19k products called "cactus soil". All different, ranging from what looks like normal potting soil to coarse gravel/bark fines. 😆


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Scemilope] * 1
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More of the bark fines, lightly sifted of the bigger sticks (hand picked).
But yeah I also pour in some verm nowadays too, since I've got a huge bag why not:shrug:

Edited by LewDoja (05/23/25 09:09 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja]
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Cool. Thanks. I'm sure can find something like that locally. The cheap "top soil" I got last year turned out to be all bark fines. And the bag of mulch I already have says it's made from hardwood bark fines.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Scemilope] * 3
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Scemilope said:
Cool. Thanks. I'm sure can find something like that locally. The cheap "top soil" I got last year turned out to be all bark fines. And the bag of mulch I already have says it's made from hardwood bark fines.


The ones I get is called "seedling and cactus soil" , I have to sift it anyways, I think the main reason cactus soil is recommended is because it's low in nutrients and have some sand.

The bag I got is way to compact after heavy mist, so now I'm trying 50/40/10 coir/cactus soil/verm. It's what Mico Zapotec use minus the verm. He used 60/40 coir/cactus soil for Semperviva, Zapotecorum, Caerulescens and Muliercula and who doesn't approve of his grows.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dkeppel] * 1
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Dkeppel said:
They look very similar to the 4 cup takeaway containers I use for trays, my containers are about 10" long x 6" wide x 2.5" tall.

You only need a couple of inches of substrate for semps, shoeboxes work really well too if you have some already.


Ding, ding, ding!
Dkeppel nailed it. They are the 4 cup containers with those dimensions. I can fit two trays into a 20 quart sterilite which is my go to tub.

I have found that most exotics (tamps, pans and subtrops) do better with only one tray per tub in my arid environment. If I give two trays more air, they dry out too fast, so they just get more space to breathe instead.

I keep making small changes to try to dial in a neglect tek for my conditions. Trying to design a tub that works for almost anything with no pumps, foggers or fans. It has been a journey with ever more success but still dialing it in. Once I can get pretty lions mane reliably I will be happy with it.

Edit:
Similar to these Meal Prep containers, but I usually pick them up locally rather than online.


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Edited by ReverendMyc (05/23/25 01:51 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Kloakk said:
Scemilope said:
Cool. Thanks. I'm sure can find something like that locally. The cheap "top soil" I got last year turned out to be all bark fines. And the bag of mulch I already have says it's made from hardwood bark fines.


The ones I get is called "seedling and cactus soil" , I have to sift it anyways, I think the main reason cactus soil is recommended is because it's low in nutrients and have some sand.

The bag I got is way to compact after heavy mist, so now I'm trying 50/40/10 coir/cactus soil/verm. It's what Mico Zapotec use minus the verm. He used 60/40 coir/cactus soil for Semperviva, Zapotecorum, Caerulescens and Muliercula and who doesn't approve of his grows.



Do you sue this seedling and cactus spoil for your pans as well?

Having a hard time sourcing decent and good priced peat moss:shrug:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Puduwoke] * 8
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I think I'm going to finally put some of the Semp print I received to Agar and give these guys a shot. Wish me luck!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
I think I'm going to finally put some of the Semp print I received to Agar and give these guys a shot. Wish me luck!


:yess:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Puduwoke]
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Puduwoke said:
Do you use this seedling and cactus spoil for your pans as well?

Having a hard time sourcing decent and good priced peat moss:shrug:


Yes I did, my first pan grow(bisporus in the signature) I used 50/50 cactus soil/verm, but I didn't like it, to little oxygen. Gave me pretty good pinset, but not perfect. So I have change it to 50/40/10, coir/cactus soil/verm. I'll update as soon as I get a pinset. It's hard to get peat here, but I found it, but if I get it, it's 200L. That's a lot, so I'm trying to make it work with cactus soil and coir. I also pH adjust all my casings with 1g/L calcium hydroxide.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 6
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ReverendMyc said:
Just want to say that laymixing is the shit for subtropicalis. Thanks for the tips, Fahtster.

Each tray produced over 2.5 oz dry from a total of 1/2 pint spawn on the first flush.
Comparing fast, medium, & slow lineages. Each tray got a coir only laymix with 1/4 pint 1:4 base and 1/4 pint 1:1 top layer, aged a couple of days and then a coir only top layer.
May not get a second flush, though. Not sure if the sub is exhausted or the failed A/C is killing the second flush. Doing everything I can to keep room temps under 28c(83f).


I am an idiot!

If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

These were nowhere close to 2.5 oz. More like 1/4 oz. I don't know what I did, except started the scale in the wrong mode like grains at 15:1 to grams. Then remeasured in grams and didn't move the decimal??? It doesn't help to measure twice and cut once if you don't look at the scale closely. I don't know. Just really dumb.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
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ReverendMyc said:
ReverendMyc said:
Just want to say that laymixing is the shit for subtropicalis. Thanks for the tips, Fahtster.

Each tray produced over 2.5 oz dry from a total of 1/2 pint spawn on the first flush.
Comparing fast, medium, & slow lineages. Each tray got a coir only laymix with 1/4 pint 1:4 base and 1/4 pint 1:1 top layer, aged a couple of days and then a coir only top layer.
May not get a second flush, though. Not sure if the sub is exhausted or the failed A/C is killing the second flush. Doing everything I can to keep room temps under 28c(83f).


I am an idiot!

If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

These were nowhere close to 2.5 oz. More like 1/4 oz. I don't know what I did, except started the scale in the wrong mode like grains at 15:1 to grams. Then remeasured in grams and didn't move the decimal??? It doesn't help to measure twice and cut once if you don't look at the scale closely. I don't know. Just really dumb.




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This hobby has taught me many things.
Most of those things are patience.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery
The Official Shroomery Cultivation Museum
CakeWars
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
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ReverendMyc said:
Each tray produced over 2.5 oz dry from a total of 1/2 pint spawn on the first flush.
Comparing fast, medium, & slow lineages. Each tray got a coir only laymix with 1/4 pint 1:4 base and 1/4 pint 1:1 top layer, aged a couple of days and then a coir only top layer.
May not get a second flush, though. Not sure if the sub is exhausted or the failed A/C is killing the second flush. Doing everything I can to keep room temps under 28c(83f).


I am an idiot!

If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

These were nowhere close to 2.5 oz. More like 1/4 oz. I don't know what I did, except started the scale in the wrong mode like grains at 15:1 to grams. Then remeasured in grams and didn't move the decimal??? It doesn't help to measure twice and cut once if you don't look at the scale closely. I don't know. Just really dumb.


We all make mistakes, and thanks for sharing one of yours, but you are not an idiot, not even close, see idiots would never share the truth and just sail they're ship on a lie..You're the real deal, and I've learned so much from your posts dude, keep up the good work with your head held up high :awesomenod:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 8
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I take back all those good things I've said about you, Rev.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala]
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Dala said:
I take back all those good things I've said about you, Rev.


:lol:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 4
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:elderno:

If anyone asks I'll just say I don't know him.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Mr Piggy said:
:elderno:

If anyone asks I'll just say I don't know him.


:rofl: You guys are brutal.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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MS top
Clone bottom

Anyone else experience faster colonization from ms?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 5
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Kloakk said:
Mr Piggy said:
:elderno:

If anyone asks I'll just say I don't know him.


:rofl: You guys are brutal.




But fair.


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