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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: astra] * 2
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astra said:
LewDoja said:
Puduwoke said:
Congrats my mansister :flexin:


Was gonna say Woman, but sounded too possessive



:canthelpbutlaugh:

Love you Lew :heart::heart:


I come back from dinner and see things got hilarious while I was gone. :lol: Thanks! Hoping to get enough for a trip so I can see what these are about. That’ll decide me on if they are worth the extra effort to do them again. I have several cool exotics projects in the works.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
MycCycle said:
I don't want to be a bitch about it, but I cannot fathom how pasteurising vermiculite would help anything with anything. Maybe save yourself the hassle next time?

Maybe someone else here has any input to contradict my point, but vermiculite is expanded at 800C/1472F.
Anything there should be dead, unless you have had it in dark and dirty places.


I finally found some coarse verm and mixed it with a little sand straight from the bag for some nat casing. But I can see were heating it could be beneficial.

Yes it was heated to be created, but then it was placed in an non air and water tight plastic bag, shipped half way around the world, sat on pallets in rat infested warehouses, shipped in rail cars, tossed in a shipping truck with every other type of growing supplies before it made it to the hydroponics shop where I bought it and threw it on top of the crap in the back of my truck to get it home.

I got 2 cubic feet and it should last me for at least a year in an open bag in my garage. So I don't see the harm in making sure that any mold spores that may have found their way into the bag get a bit of extra heat before I drop them directly on my precious trays. I didn't this time, so we will see how it goes. It will probably be fine, but I don't see the harm in taking a little extra precaution.

If I did heat it, I would probably use sterilization temperatures rather than pasteurization. No sense in trying to protect beneficial microbes in an inert material so you might as well kill off any bacteria as well as the potential molds.


:whathesaid:
pasteurization dosent make sense to me either. gonna heat it up good


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            j. krishnamurti


>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

Edited by chris77 (05/04/25 04:39 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] * 4
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I used fine verm on my semp grows for like a year straight, never heat treated it. Sometimes I’d even receive it wet, didn’t make a diff. Not meaning to imply that you shouldn’t, just that y’all will be fine either way & if you lose a grow I doubt it’s verm’s fault. The main reason I stopped using 100% verm is bc it’s more difficult to gauge casing moisture at a glance than it is with peat based casings. Untreated jiffy mix is my jam atm

As long as you’re growing the “fast” ones, you can still get awesome results by skipping the casing altogether like the last pic in my sig. Just pack em in compression + top layer style like cubes. Mist good at spawn, come back in 2 weeks. Boom juicy canopies


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77]
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The feedback on here is great.  Even if some is conflicting.  Obviously a bunch of different methods have worked for different people in different situations.  I have still not got a semp to fruit.  I think I probably need to get some new genetics.

The sterilization, pasteurization, straight out of the bag discussion is interesting.  Certainly sterilization kills everything, but you might lose the protective effects of thermophilic bacteria that are retained with pasteurization. 

I've had luck with sterilization and pasteurization with cubes and pans.  Haven't done much straight out of the bag because I'm paranoid about trich and I know heat kills it.

I agree that it is probably overkill to sterilize coir, but I like to keep some quart jars of coir and casing sterilized and lying around in case I want to do a small grow without having to break up a block of coir or get out the pressure cooker.

I pasteurized the vermiculite because someone commented about sterilized stuff maybe not being as good (and that the large bag had been open for months and it is the same bag I use to make pan substrate and has a bag of manure right next to it in my shed).  I was thinking maybe a little beneficial bacteria might help trigger pinning.  Still waiting to see.  Everything colonized great, looks strong, but just waiting on pins.  A couple of the trays have been sitting there 2 months.  Ate my peat verm lime casing.  I recased them.  Starting to work through casing again.

Bottom line, I will try several different methods until I find something that works.  I've even got a semp bag going that I poured a fully colonized millet quart into one of my bags of pan substrate (sterilized coir/manure/verm)

I'm not worried about getting canopies or even too concerned about yield efficiency.  One even halfway successful grow ends up yielding more than I can consume in a year. 

For those still patiently waiting like me,  keep on keeping on.  If I don't get something going with semps in the next couple months, my next step will be to get some new genetics and start over.


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I may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, but I have taken 20 grams of fresh subtropicalis :smile:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 1
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Quote:
A couple of the trays have been sitting there 2 months.  Ate my peat verm lime casing.  I recased them.  Starting to work through casing again.


Try a bit more lime.

Also the longer the jar consolidates I believe is the number one best thing to encourage prompt pinning.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 1
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Wrong thread-wrong reply. Edited out

I don’t hang out here as much as I used to, so forgive me if I’m missing where you did. Have you shared pics of your mycelium with us?


Edited by MojaveMyc (05/04/25 09:09 AM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Imatryin]
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Thanks bud!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MycCycle] * 1
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Conflict drives plot.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Nichrome] * 4
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Can I get a health check please? Im pretty confident that weird blue/green spot isn't actually there and likely a reflection or something, so ignore that.

I'm pretty sure it looks good, but I wanna g2g so an outside opinion wouldn't hurt.


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Hitchhikers Guide to The Shroomery

Shine on forever, shine on benevolent son
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Looking great! If you have given its time to consolidate send that sh it or use it as a master.


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Astra said:

“Peace River has a gentle personality, yet TTBVI hit me like strong LSD with a twist of medical grade meth. Not for the faint of heart.”

Team Panaeolus

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 2
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TheAtlantean said:
Looking great! If you have given its time to consolidate send that sh it or use it as a master.


G2g it is then. Thank you!


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Hitchhikers Guide to The Shroomery

Shine on forever, shine on benevolent son
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 6
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Looking super clean 🧼

I’m stoked for these to pop off

I’ve got 5 of these bad boys.

All look just like this.


:supersaiyan:
#simpingforsemps
Did I hear someone say Sand and Verm as a top layer?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 6
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Super quick trip report from someone who has no idea what semperviva/subtropicalis are. I don't even know the person but my buddy I gave some to does. Normally I would never suggest this dose, but since dude will just grab a big handful of shrooms and down them, I figured he would be fine. This guy is also known to eat a half oz of potent dried fruit and say it's a light trip. My buddy said he wanted to "WOW" this dude, so I told him to give him 3g of semps. Don't warn him about anything just say "this is all I have, so it'll have to do". The dude ate them at home and gave my friend a really good review.
This is what my buddy texted me.
"My friend who got them from me this weekend was telling me about his experience Saturday. It was quite a good one apparently. Of all the things that happened he said that he lived an entire life from birth through adolescence, a career, retired, old age, and death all in about an hour. In great detail."

He loved the trip but doesn't want them for general use. He said he was going to work with them more but sparingly. He was asking if there was anything 1 step down from them. I have no clue what would even compare to these, since they are completely different all around. I'm thinking maybe PE? I did suggest eating much less like 1-1.5g for general use. What would you all suggest?
I thought you would enjoy seeing what a non biased trip was like.


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Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs
My Miraculix Potency Test Results
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery
My Museum
REV'S Tested: Dehydration temperature vs potency





Edited by Bigworm (05/05/25 08:55 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 1
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:whatthefuck:
This is crazy. Have you seen the recent bioassays and lab testing that came back a whopping 1.2% or some shit.

Lmao. “Not for general use”

I would think a pan variety or maybe bisporus. PE would be like 2 notches in my opinion. But a more exp ‘naut might have more to say.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 1
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I wouldn’t think someone could keep it together above 2. That’s insane.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 2
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Last time I ate these was quite a while ago and I think I took about 2g. (Just checked and I took 25g fresh.)Completely changed my life. Yeah I was thinking the same thing but I had pans that 0.5g had me tripping pretty good.
I would never had suggested that dose if I wasn't under the impression he would be able to handle it. He's had my Yeti and scoffed at it. My yeti was pretty damn strong.


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Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs
My Miraculix Potency Test Results
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery
My Museum
REV'S Tested: Dehydration temperature vs potency





Edited by Bigworm (05/05/25 09:12 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 8
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It’s weird how occasionally you come across somebody who’s not on meds but just has an insane resistance to psychedelics.

I have a friend like the guy you described, he’ll eat 7-10g of PE or 5-6 super strong tabs of acid and be like “it was a pretty good buzz for a couple hours”.

2.5g of pans got him going though, he called me yelling about how the flowers are spinning and melting and it’s the first time he’s had any kind of OEV :shrug:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
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My buddy's wife has a super high tolerance too. She can eat more then an eighth and not feel a damn thing. She's not on meds but I'm not sure about the guy my buddy gave them to.

I think 2.5g of pans would get just about anyone going! 🤣


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Pastywhyte’s Ez dialed monotubs
My Miraculix Potency Test Results
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Shroomery
My Museum
REV'S Tested: Dehydration temperature vs potency





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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 2
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My gfs daughter got her hands on some type or PE. It was easily the most potent 3g I've ever eaten and she felt nothing. She had another 3g of whatever cubes I had laying around, and to no ones surprise, still didn't do anything to her. Then she got a weird bf who wasn't down with it so the poor girl never did experience her first trip.

Her sister at least felt something off the 3g of PE, but it was pretty mild.

Genetics are fuggin weird.


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Hitchhikers Guide to The Shroomery

Shine on forever, shine on benevolent son
Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 8
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my first semp, gonna try them outdoors by the river.

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