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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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I need to do more research but I have a 2 lb bag (2 quart equivalent?) of seemingly clean Semp grain, almost at full colonization. I've never fruiting any other actives aside from Cubes. Aside from what seems like they need more care in the pasteurization of their substrate and a casing at 100% colonization, is there anything else I need to know for a first timer?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Axman] * 2
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Let the bag consolidate at least a week after 100%...2 is probably better, for a 2# bag

Dry side of felid capacity for sub

Edited by LewDoja (04/30/25 11:02 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Axman] * 2
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Once everything's geared up for hot action they get incredibly slow.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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I covered one tray with vermiculite and the other with cactus soil.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: akapulko] * 5
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My first semp jar. Opinions? I shook it at roughly 30% on 4/29 and it's nearing full colonization. I'd love to believe it's just fast on grain, but I dont trust it...


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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ThurmanMurman said:


My first semp jar. Opinions? I shook it at roughly 30% on 4/29 and it's nearing full colonization. I'd love to believe it's just fast on grain, but I dont trust it...



Mycelium they have the fastest, at least for me.Jar 0.5 liters colonized in 10 days with liquid mycelium

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 3
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My jars have reached 100% at 2 weeks. Small agar wedge and 2 shakes.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Looks good! Do you have more than one, if not give it a couple days and G2G...

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 3
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ReverendMyc said:
I was concerned about a mix up so I was triple checking every step along the way. I am 99.9% certain that they are each correctly labeled. I am human, so there is a nonzero chance that I made a mistake, but I genuinely can't see how. So I am now thinking that it is much more environmental than differences in lineage.

Up until now, that "fast" line from Melgo was usually faster to knot, pin and mature. I say usually, because there was still a range of time for each stage.

And the "slow" line from Hindsight has been extremely slow for me each time I ran it, but that has only been a few runs, I admit.

The middle line is the bell cap from RockinRobot and it has generally run slower than the Melgo but never taken as long as the Hindsight.

But this is the first time that I ran them all at the same time using the same materials and environment every step of the way. One test is certainly not conclusive, but given how close they are with all other things being equal I am going to stop calling them fast, slow and slower.

Still waiting for 100 days to compare total actives between each line and their myceliated grains. That was the real experiment in any case, but since I had all three lines ready I wanted to give them each a try to compare.




Glad to hear you were able to grow mine out. Have only heard back from 1 or 2 people. Mine all averaged ~40 days from S2B for me.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a] * 5
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A.k.a said:
Fast and slow lines held up for me,  but I’ve only run the slow once so far.

Aside from pinning speed the biggest difference is the slow ones have huge caps compared to what I’ve always gotten from the faster ones.



Now that you point it out, the "slow" ones do have much larger caps than the "fast" ones. Just funny that they are all pinning and maturing an nearly the same speed with a slight advantage to the slow line.


This morning 2 days later

I like that there is a difference in the colors and pheno as well. The fast always seem to curl up even when they do get misted. The bell cap try to stay more domed if they get enough humidity/mist and have more striated caps (is striated the right word for the radial lines?). The slow caps are larger and some have that beautiful two tone color like the ones in the back.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala] * 2
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Good to know! I suppose that's a good sign of health then since that jar is absolutely hauling ass! 🤙

Lew - g2g was a strong consideration but now that you're twisting my arm, its a done deal, brotha!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 4
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LewDoja said:
Whilst I couldn't even tell ya which variety I have....

Have been working from the same germ plates and have seen quite a variety of phenotypes and speed/slowness.

From 8 days from.spawn for knots (no casing),  to over a month & a half with 2 casings.




That's actually nice to know.
In that case I'll use my germ plate and make a bunch of plates.
Maybe I'll finally get those "pins within two weeks" instead of... well... nothing 😂

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 6
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ReverendMyc said:
A.k.a said:
Fast and slow lines held up for me,  but I’ve only run the slow once so far.

Aside from pinning speed the biggest difference is the slow ones have huge caps compared to what I’ve always gotten from the faster ones.



Now that you point it out, the "slow" ones do have much larger caps than the "fast" ones. Just funny that they are all pinning and maturing an nearly the same speed with a slight advantage to the slow line.


This morning 2 days later

I like that there is a difference in the colors and pheno as well. The fast always seem to curl up even when they do get misted. The bell cap try to stay more domed if they get enough humidity/mist and have more striated caps (is striated the right word for the radial lines?). The slow caps are larger and some have that beautiful two tone color like the ones in the back.




Same.

Fast ones always had small curly bright orange caps no matter what I did, the slow ones had much bigger, darker caps that stayed flat and had very obvious striations.



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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a] * 12
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Update on the tub-turned-cake-in-a-tub



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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: RockinRobot] * 1
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RockinRobot said:
ReverendMyc said:
I was concerned about a mix up so I was triple checking every step along the way. I am 99.9% certain that they are each correctly labeled. I am human, so there is a nonzero chance that I made a mistake, but I genuinely can't see how. So I am now thinking that it is much more environmental than differences in lineage.

Up until now, that "fast" line from Melgo was usually faster to knot, pin and mature. I say usually, because there was still a range of time for each stage.

And the "slow" line from Hindsight has been extremely slow for me each time I ran it, but that has only been a few runs, I admit.

The middle line is the bell cap from RockinRobot and it has generally run slower than the Melgo but never taken as long as the Hindsight.

But this is the first time that I ran them all at the same time using the same materials and environment every step of the way. One test is certainly not conclusive, but given how close they are with all other things being equal I am going to stop calling them fast, slow and slower.

Still waiting for 100 days to compare total actives between each line and their myceliated grains. That was the real experiment in any case, but since I had all three lines ready I wanted to give them each a try to compare.




Glad to hear you were able to grow mine out. Have only heard back from 1 or 2 people. Mine all averaged ~40 days from S2B for me.




40 days sounds kind,,, Try 2+ months
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala] * 2
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Dala said:
Update on the tub-turned-cake-in-a-tub





I wanna see those caps glistening....  every time you look at em give em a spritz

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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K they'll get it. thanks buddy


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dala] * 5
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Dala said:
Update on the tub-turned-cake-in-a-tub





Damn, I’m glad that worked out. Now you get to wait 20-40 days to make prints.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao] * 1
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I will give coarse verm only casing a try. :popcorn:
whats the procedure when the bag has been opened quite a while ago.? just sprinkle and mist? how deep?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao] * 3
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I'll also say, in reference to whether the cakes should have a barrier between them and the coir bedding....they totally should.

At first I didn't want to... when I looked at them with no barrier, it felt like the cakes were walking barefoot on the grass, and that made me smile.

But that myc is aggressive! It totally would have consumed the coir and lessened the humidity effect (It stays pretty humid in there; I wiped so much moisture off the walls before those pics). They're sitting on lids now.


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Also, this should be a postcard available in the site store 😍

Who's got a tag line for it?


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