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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog] * 2
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I just put two nats/ochra shoeboxes to bulk a few days ago.  I report back when they fruit to see which one’s I have.  I can say that the plates and jars were aggressive and not very rhizo more thick toma

Here is one of my jars before sending


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Beef’s The Hitchikers Guide to Shroomery
Stipe’s Clean Spawn Checklist
Gummies by milkboy
Eat’s Easy Oats Prep
DV8DUG’s Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars

Edited by Headass (02/13/25 06:25 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: Headass] * 3
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Not much rhizo here either.





Some on the glass of this LI jar.  Hoping this is stones starting. I'll let it chill for a month or more and see what it does.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog] * 7
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Time to get to work.


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Stoned Gummys | BRF Pucks | Primo Reusable Plates | Easy LI 4 Preserv & Propo
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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: ReverendMyc]
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:threadmonitor:

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: Carnonos] * 3
    #29135377 -

Removed accidental ochracentrata grow to avoid confusion.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (03/01/25 10:48 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog]
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I've just used a spore syringe of Nats on a couple of plates - well, what I believe to Nats. The supplier called them P. Natalensis anyway.

I'll be sure to upload photos during the growing process

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: Salty Soybean] * 1
    #29136020 -

Is it assumed all trusted vendor nats are ochras? I have 3 shoeboxes a week and a half in right now so I'd like to know if I should change anything. This is also the furthest I've ever gone on a grow so I have no idea if I'm doing anything wrong
This is the first shoebox w 3 qts spawn in a 4:1 w casing


Second shoebox with 2 qts spawn in 4:1 w casing

Third shoebox w 2 qts in a 4:1 but no casing


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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: noleboarder] * 1
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I would assume everything labeled natelensis is ochra, unless the vendor specifies.

Not ochra, real nats, or something similar.

I have a side pin pushing up this morning. I'm not going to post a picture it just looks like a cube pin.

Hopefully as it grows up it shows some morphological differences.

I'm planning to print everything I can from this tote.  If y'all have marketplace access I'm going to trade this first run for stamps, so I'm stocked up on those for a spring panaeolus giveaway.

Anyway, I'll post again once fruits are more mature.  Maybe tomorrow or the next day. And then again when I start printing caps (hopefully!!)


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog] * 3
    #29136717 -

Removed accidental ochracentrata grow to avoid confusion.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (03/01/25 10:49 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Lookin good Tree Frog,

When did you apply casing?

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I'm going to trade this first run for stamps...


Hell yeah, like the good old days.

Just think of how many stamps The Shroomy 1 had received.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/ratingstats.php

Edited by LewDoja (02/24/25 09:32 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: LewDoja] * 7
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Removed accidental ochracentrata grow to avoid confusion.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (03/01/25 10:50 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Nice, they're looking good so far.

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: DERRAYLD] * 2
    #29138920 -

Thanks!  I've just been following your advice.  Making other folks jealous.  Especially the cultivator that gifted me the culture :lol:


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog] * 3
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I moved the jars that I'm letting colonize to make stones into some ambient light a few days ago, they had been in my closet.

They don't seem like they are heavy in beta carbolinoids like the mexi/tamp stones.  But I still decided to use the UV light to get some contrast.

Edit:  and you know I'm still suspicious if the ones in my tents are cubes. When I got these from my friend he gave me another species that was mislabeled and turned out to be a cube. And before I found that out I had inoculated a jar with it at the same time I inoculated this one.

I may have tossed the wrong all in one jar.  :lol:

I will get it scoped before any prints go out so we don't have more mix ups.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (02/26/25 03:00 PM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! [Re: tree frog] * 5
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Removed accidental ochracentrata grow


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (03/01/25 10:51 AM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! *DELETED* [Re: tree frog]
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Post deleted by tree frog

Reason for deletion: Maybe wrong


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (02/26/25 10:08 PM)

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! *DELETED* [Re: tree frog] * 1
    #29140461 -

So what I'm fruiting, I don't think it's nats but a wild ochra.  I explained here.

tree frog said:
LewDoja said:
tree frog said:


I believe this is ochracentrata.  Was meant to be natalensis (which I am also running).  But I think I mixed up a jar when I labeled it.

Going to get it scoped to know for sure.


Doesn't that skirt remaining on stipe indicate that it's not natalensis?


There's other indications too.  I'm pretty sure it's a wild ochra print that was misidentified as a cube.  I know how it could have gotten mislabeled during my work flow.

I believe this might be the natalensis tray.  It appears to be making sclerotia and taking a long time to fruit.  Which are good indicators.




Which got marked ingeli.  I think I tossed that ingeli tray.  But the one I posted up thread with the grass, I spawned that the same day as this tray.

And... The wild cube/ochra from south africa, was labeled pan cyan accidentally by the collector when the guy I got it from received it.

This culture has some crazy karma lol

But, wild ochra is pretty cool lol  My source still believes it's a nat.  So we are going to scope it but I'm pretty sure it's not.




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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! *DELETED* [Re: tree frog] * 1
    #29140465 -

Those caps kind of remind me of this one in the middle


Same tub these came from

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! *DELETED* [Re: LewDoja] * 3
    #29140471 -

Yeah, and lack of veil doesn't mean it is natalensis.  Ochra sometimes don't make them, especially indoors.

I rewatched the myc check video last night, because I've been kind of suspicious of this tray and how easy it has been and how much it has looked like cubes.

Anyway, I'm going to put together a collage of creative common photos and information I've gathered in the last 24 hours as I've poured over this trying to figure it out.

Morphologically, I don't think that they actually look that similar. And they aren't that closely related to either species.

For anyone with a microscope, you can easily verify if you have the real ones or not.  They have one, two, three, and four spored basidia. Which makes the range of spore sizes quite variable.  And that can get quite a lot larger than ochra spores do to the single spored basidia.

I will detail the macroscopic features as soon as I get them put together.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: The OFFICIAL, Psilocybe natalensis (NOT πŸ›‘ ochraceocentrata) thread! *DELETED* [Re: tree frog]
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Thanks, am looking forward to it!

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