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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Big Jon]
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Big Jon said:
Big Jon said:
Still not seeing any signs of fruiting of my psilocybe cyanescens beds, but there is vigorous mycelium growth and the beds are a solid cake (I will post pics when I get the chance).

I saw the post about putting an empty Minton bin upside down over the bed to increase humidity + initiate fruiting.  How well does this work? How long should it take for me to see any signs of fruiting after this? Any help is appreciated!




Bump.



What are your daytime/nighttime temps, how long have they been at those temps, and how long ago did you build the bed?

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake]
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Thanks for all the input on my question. You are all a wealth of knowledge!

I'm germinating an ovoid print I received in a giveaway. Anyone got some really good pics of mycelium I'm looking for on the germ plates. I would post my plate but I'm using a holy grail plate and it's impossible to get any sort of good pic of the growth I have on it.

Edited by Bigworm (11/20/24 11:34 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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Mr Piggy said:
smalltalk_canceled said:
We (the human growers) are also a result of bajillion years of cell division. If we are not the sentient top of nature, none is.



We as a species are a mere 200k to 300k years old.  Species typically last around 250,000 years before going extinct.  We shit in the water, burn the air, and boil the sea.  We are singlehandedly the 6th great extinction to occur on this planet.

What has sentience brought us but the destruction of our only home?  What has it brought us besides the threat of nuclear annihilation of all life on the planet?  We may not even have to wait for that to happen, it will simply be too hot soon.

So, jury might still be out on that one.



And this is why I give Piggy such a hard time... :rolleyes:

1. H. sapiens sapiens (modern humans), the hybridized version of H. sapiens, H. neanderthalensis, and H. denisova, have only existed on this planet for around 100k years. Not 200k-300k... True H. sapiens, the ones that existed 200k-300k years ago, don't exist anymore.

2. H. neanderthalensis existed for at least 360k years, Australopithecus afarensis lasted around 700k years, and H. erectus was around for over 1.5 million years. If you want to go non-humanoid, Triops cancriformis has existed for 220 million years, and horseshoe crabs have existed on this planet relatively unchanged for 450 million years. There is no actual data supporting his wild claim that "species typically last around 250,000 years before going extinct.", that's just nonsense...

3. Animals have been shitting in the water for hundreds of millions of years before the first animal climbed on land. There is literally more tonnage of fish shit in the ocean currently right this second than there is tonnage of human beings on the planet.

4. Boiling the seas? Really? Show some evidence the seas have gotten anywhere close to 200F that isn't caused by natural thermal vents or an erupting underwater volcano, I'll wait...

5. We are NOT in the "6th Mass Extinction Event", that's utter bullshit. Extinction events are measured by the estimated amount of extinct species in a short GEOLOGICAL period of time, not the past 60 years. Currently there are an estimated 100-10k (that's not a typo) species going extinct every year. That's a MASSIVE difference, proving they don't actually know anything at all about how many species are actually going extinct. They're just guessing...

But what we do know for sure is that around 15k-20k "new" species are discovered every year. And it's estimated that 86% of all land species (and 91% of underwater species) have still yet to be scientifically documented. And we know by the fossil record that every time the planet warms up, species evolution booms and new species emerge. Do some actual oppositional research, instead of just regurgitating the bullshit you were spoon-fed by people who make billions of dollars each year off your fearful ignorance.

The 5th Mass Extinction Event saw the extinction of half the world's species of megafauna (animals over 100lbs) on the planet, and around 3/4 of all life on North America die, within a 1000-2000 year period. All of the existing megafauna on the planet now is just the half that survived. Only uneducated people (or people with an agenda) would compare our current time period to the Younger Dryas extinction, which was one of the smallest Mass Extinction Events... To even be close to that one we'd have to see the total extinction of all remaining currently-known existing animal species over 100lbs (including us), and the death of 3/4 of all life on this continent, in just the short period of time between the fall of the Roman Empire and today.

6. Dude, go get some therapy! Or get a new therapist, because whatever you're doing isn't working...  Your nihilistic view of the world proves to me that "medicinal" psychedelics are not working for you at all. You are far more disconnected from the world around you than the average sober person. How can you claim you ever show love and respect to your fellow humans when out of the same mouth (or finger tips) you shit on the entire existence of our species and everything we've accomplished?

7. What has our sentience done? It's lowered the annual infant mortality rate from 20%-30% a mere two hundred years ago to an average of 0.01% today in developed nations. It's lowered the amount of human deaths by natural disaster per decade by 92% since the 1920's. It's found a way to successfully gene-edit child patients with sickle-cell anemia to effectively eliminate the condition. It's made it possible to grow food crops in deserts around the world, feeding millions of people that would have just slowly starved to death while they watched their loved ones suffer too. It's lifted well over a billion people out of extreme poverty around the world in just the past 34 years.

It's made it possible for you to live in a safe, spoiled environment that your great-great-grandparents would never have believed was possible in a 1000 years. It's made it easy as hell for you to get online to communicate with any number of people around the world that you want to learn about the great and wonderous cultures that reside outside your tiny existence, and instead you decide to come on here and whine about how horrible your fellow humans are for giving you all the comforts you willfully take for granted every day.

And it made it possible for me to survive being born a premature heroin-baby with a bad case of jaundice, two inguinal hernias, and a moderately-severe cleft palate that made it impossible for me to breast feed. It made it possible for me to get that cleft palate fixed in 1977, so I could eat and drink like a normal child. And it made it possible for me to get those two inguinal hernias fixed again in 2016, keeping me for putting a gun in my mouth due to the pain.

Maybe you wouldn't be so depressed and nihilistic if you tried having some actual gratitude for the billions of people that died to make it possible for you to exist.

Btw, you do understand that people live fine in daily temps of above 90F, right? More people live closer to the equator than further away from it. Millions of years of geologic evidence shows that it is cold periods that kill off life globally, not warm periods.

Edited by ghiajake (11/21/24 02:17 AM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa] * 9
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This massive philosophy talk overshadowed my beautiful Cyan/Azure spawn experiment... :frown: :confused:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 3
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Mine looked like most of the other WL I have cultured. This is a T1.
Ovoid
@cybesa I liked it.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 2
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I doubt he meant oceans boiling literally lol. But warmer oceans are and will keep decimating species like dolphins or polar bears. Warmer water means their food goes to deeper colder water to survive and dolphins, whales and polar bears can't get enough food to survive. Warmer oceans also change precipitation patterns which can lead to flash floods like the one that just hit my country and killed over 220 people.

Also the discovery of new species is completely irrelevant to the extinction of others. It's not like those "new species" just appeared on earth the moment we discovered them (a lot of new discoveries are just reclassifications with modern tools like DNA sampling). They were already here being part and maintaining different ecosystems. The loss of species however does affect those ecosystems negatively. The estimate range of species going extinct is huge because: 1. the criteria to declare a species extinct is extremely stringent and hard to document without extensive and expensive research for vertebrate animals which leads to point 2. we can't really tell the extinction rate of invertebrates because they are even harder to study and we are still "discovering" more and more species of them.

And about surviving over 90F, that's easy, hell you can even survive over 120F, as long as the relative humidity isn't high. In a high humidity environment you could die of heatstroke even at 86F. We cool down our temperature with the evaporation of our sweat, in high humidity environments your sweat just doesn't evaporate and can't cool you anymore which leads to heatstroke and even death. This summer over 700 people died of heatstroke in India, with over 40 000 suspected heatstroke cases, and that number will keep increasing with warmer temperatures. The only solution to heatstroke is AC, which is extremely rare (and expensive) in the countries between the tropics. So with warmer global temperatures we can expect higher death tolls on those countries until the people start escaping from the heat to colder latitudes (massive migrations).

Maybe heat won't cause a sudden global extinction but it will kill thousands or millions of people and animals and completely change the world as we know it. Sorry this topic probably belongs in The Pub rather than here.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 5
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Listen, man. You tried this shit with the whole primary/secondary decomposer thing as well. Anyone at a 9th grade reading level can see what you're attempting to achieve with your walls of text.

Stop it with the asinine argumentation, and lets get back on topic without the requirement for noob level battleground antics. Please and thank you.

Abusive Ad hominem will not be tolerated.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 6
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Five prints from my intentional azurescens patch.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
Listen, man. You tried this shit with the whole primary/secondary decomposer thing as well. Anyone at a 9th grade reading level can see what you're attempting to achieve with your walls of text.

Stay on topic, stop it with the asinine argumentation, and lets get back on topic without the requirement for noob level battleground antics. Please and thank you.

Abusive Ad hominem will not be tolerated.



Oh I put Jake on ignore a long time ago.  If you disagree with him, he will get abusive and overbearing very quickly.

Scream as he might into the void, I will never see what he posts :lol:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 11
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What does *checks paper* your mom and the mushrooms being discussed in this thread have in common?

You guessed it! They both love wood.

:monkeydance:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
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:cheersyoufuck:



JW123 said:
Mine looked like most of the other WL I have cultured. This is a T1.
Ovoid
@cybesa I liked it.



My germ plate was way more wispy or way more solid white almost like plaster. I guess I'm trying again with another print.

Edited by Bigworm (11/21/24 08:56 AM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
What does *checks paper* your mom and the mushrooms being discussed in this thread have in common?

You guessed it! They both love wood.

:monkeydance:




It's true.  Listening to my mom get drunk and talk about how much she likes dick is horrifying.  Just spilling wine on her live laugh love pillow the whole time :lol:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Tweeq]
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So Tweeq! Did you dig out your Azurescens bed, or just dumb chips + spawn over the soil?
Would both work? Which is better? (Of course we have to consider the location, soil type, hardiness zone, but still!)


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa]
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I love dumb chips
:awehigh:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I can't speak for Tweeq, but I make beds on top of the soil.  I live in a wet area with 3/4 of the year being heavy precipitation.  Digging a hole might just drown them, unless they're ovoids.  Ovoids like wet feet.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Interesting!
All my beds of Azures/Cyans so far were dug.. all the Cyans survived (and 2 out of 3 fruited consecutively) while only 1 Azure bed survived and that didn't even fruit.. perhaps I will try putting Azure chips on top of the soil in a shady, mossy area while keep digging for Cyan beds. They don't seem to mind!


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Be yourself. Don't hurt other beings, or expect hurt yourself. Love others, and expect love yourself.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 2
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Bigworm said:
I'm germinating an ovoid print I received in a giveaway. Anyone got some really good pics of mycelium I'm looking for on the germ plates.




From Left to right - CT, NJ, KY genetics.  All @ 8 days after putting to plate.

   

And an angled close up of one of the colonies:



I didn't take any T1 plates, just transferred clean regions directly onto chips... So this is basically T1 growth in these jars a few months later:

 

Hope that helps :wink:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Bigworm] * 1
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My germ plate looked weird too. I just transferred and prayed. I wish I had a picture of it. I would say take a few transfers and see what you get.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: JW123] * 1
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I've always had trouble getting ovoids to germ on agar.  They seem to be a bit funky at first.


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New to cultivation or the shroomery?  Observe the hitchhiker's guide

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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa] * 1
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cybesa said:
So Tweeq! Did you dig out your Azurescens bed, or just dumb chips + spawn over the soil?
Would both work? Which is better? (Of course we have to consider the location, soil type, hardiness zone, but still!)



The bed was previously a thick layer of gravel with plastic underneath. Legacy of precious occupants. We took all of that out and made the bed in the resulting shallow pit. It's between 10-15 cm (4-6 inches) deep mostly.

The bed is made up of wood spawn and wood chips and topped with a thin layer of potting soil.

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