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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin]
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I didn’t mean to imply they’ve become more potent as they matured. I have no data for that. I grind and pool my fruits.
I meant they stopped getting larger and seemed to shift to spore production.
Yes, be careful dosing. I wouldn’t want you inadvertently take 40 grams fresh and feel a tingle.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao] * 1
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The Tao said:
I didn’t mean to imply they’ve become more potent as they matured. I have no data for that. I grind and pool my fruits.
I meant they stopped getting larger and seemed to shift to spore production.
Yes, be careful dosing. I wouldn’t want you inadvertently take 40 grams fresh and feel a tingle.


:canthelpbutlaugh:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
I didn’t mean to imply they’ve become more potent as they matured. I have no data for that. I grind and pool my fruits.
I meant they stopped getting larger and seemed to shift to spore production.
Yes, be careful dosing. I wouldn’t want you inadvertently take 40 grams fresh and feel a tingle.


Tao - do you mean you grind them up after dehydrating? I thought I read that speeds up drop in potency - I’m I understanding that correctly?

I ask because I would ideally want to dehydrate, grind, and pool my shrooms to get more of an even dose, but I don’t know if it would be worth it if loss of potency is the issue (I do realize this is the subtrop thread and I’m only currently growing cubes, but it spurred the thought).


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: UtahGetMeTwo] * 4
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You retard the oxidation process when commiting the resulting powder to airtight storage, so I'd assume that the loss of potency is negligible at best.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: alaskappalachian]
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:whathesaid:
If you put them straight to a sealed jar right after dehydration and grinding to powder they will lose very little potency for several years, ime. If you are opening and closing the jars, it is best to have some silica packets, o2 absorbers or to vacuum seal the jars each time.

The powder can also be used to make capsules which lose potency pretty slowly. But for long term storage, I would use the same methods as above.

Left exposed to air or even in sealed plastic containers and Ziploc bags, powdered will lose potency somewhat faster than whole dried fruits due to greater surface exposure to o2. But even whole fruits lose potency pretty fast if not kept truly dry. In the absence of moisture, the psilocybin doesn't react with o2 much at all. Unfortunately, moisture can permeate into places you might not expect, like vacuum sealed bags.

Vacuum sealed glass ftw.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 2
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Edit: misunderstood response

Thanks y’all. Makes sense and good to know.


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Edited by UtahGetMeTwo (08/07/24 05:15 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: UtahGetMeTwo] * 4
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No comma. S/He didn't call you a name.

They used the original meaning to describe the slowing of the oxidation process.

You dummy. Just kidding. :wink:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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Lol yeah totally my bad. Been a long day at work.

Now to look up resources on how to vacuum seal glass jars!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 6
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alaskappalachian said:
You retard.


He got me.

:shrug:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 5
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shit is getting wide and woody


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Blueberry Muffin] * 1
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Blueberry Muffin said:
I took 40g fresh yesterday. Took more than 30 minutes to hit me probably because I had a full stomach. That said it was great. Little to no close eyed visuals but I felt great, cried, cuddled, danced and today I feel that my senses work even better. For some reason flooding my receptors once a week keeps me more healthy and happy and it's easy to eat more subtrops than any other mushrooms because it seems than subtrops are kinder than any other.



They take a while to kick in for me too, even fresh.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: UtahGetMeTwo] * 5
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UtahGetMeTwo said:
The Tao said:
I didn’t mean to imply they’ve become more potent as they matured. I have no data for that. I grind and pool my fruits.
I meant they stopped getting larger and seemed to shift to spore production.
Yes, be careful dosing. I wouldn’t want you inadvertently take 40 grams fresh and feel a tingle.


Tao - do you mean you grind them up after dehydrating? I thought I read that speeds up drop in potency - I’m I understanding that correctly?

I ask because I would ideally want to dehydrate, grind, and pool my shrooms to get more of an even dose, but I don’t know if it would be worth it if loss of potency is the issue (I do realize this is the subtrop thread and I’m only currently growing cubes, but it spurred the thought).


I keep the intact fruits in mason jars with desiccant packs. When I want to make chocolates I grind 14 grams and dose at 1 gram per, I will be moving up to 1.25 due to peer pressure.
The chocolates are stored in the freezer. I haven’t noticed a drop in potency. The trees still walk with me.
All my jars have desiccants and humidity indicators. 
The skeletons indicate which jars to be respectful to.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: 999999999] * 1
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999999999 said:
shit is getting wide and woody


:ohnowaitokay:


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: UtahGetMeTwo]
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UtahGetMeTwo said:
Now to look up resources on how to vacuum seal glass jars!


I was using a hand pump and adapters for jars, but this thing is so much easier for about the same price.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BDDX27WT


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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alaskappalachian said:
You retard the oxidation process when commiting the resulting powder to airtight storage, so I'd assume that the loss of potency is negligible at best.


:rollsafe:


Too fucking good.

I laughed out loud. 😆


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: TheAtlantean] * 1
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:lol:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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Mr Piggy said:
999999999 said:
shit is getting wide and woody


:ohnowaitokay:


:howyoudoing:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 4
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ReverendMyc said:
UtahGetMeTwo said:
Now to look up resources on how to vacuum seal glass jars!


I was using a hand pump and adapters for jars, but this thing is so much easier for about the same price.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BDDX27WT


Apologize for the self quote:
Also, if you heat a jar full of dry mush with the two piece lid loose in the oven and then close the lid tight. When it cools you have a pretty nice dry vacuum.

Don't bake it like a pizza, just whatever the lowest setting on the oven is will work.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc]
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ReverendMyc said:
ReverendMyc said:
UtahGetMeTwo said:
Now to look up resources on how to vacuum seal glass jars!


I was using a hand pump and adapters for jars, but this thing is so much easier for about the same price.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BDDX27WT


Apologize for the self quote:
Also, if you heat a jar full of dry mush with the two piece lid loose in the oven and then close the lid tight. When it cools you have a pretty nice dry vacuum.

Don't bake it like a pizza, just whatever the lowest setting on the oven is will work.


:takingnotes:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ReverendMyc] * 4
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Humidity plays a huge factor with powdered shrooms too. I sent some to a friend in the PNW and he ground them all up, took a dose and then put the rest in capsules. He said like a week later some of them had swollen so much from absorbing moisture the caps cracked and it was like 50-70% potency loss.


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