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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
gopher said:
Why would they be able to go after him if he wasn't doing something shady


Well, firstly, let's put Trump aside for a moment. Our justice system puts innocent people in prison all of the time. You don't seriously believe they only go after guilty people, or only convict guilty people, do you?

Now add to that the fact that he is the likely winner of the next presidential election, and people absolutely despise him.


You're taking what I said out of context... so.. :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Quote:
Our justice system puts innocent people in prison all of the time.


Our justice system puts innocent people in jail sometimes , puts guilty people in jail most of the time though .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Trump isn’t going to prison for this anyways


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
crash_compton said:
TRUMP 2024!!!!!

Just donated to his campaign and ordered signs.


I know a million of these guys ^^^


A lot of them are black. Black people don't like seeing the justice system used as a political tool, and that is how this looks to many people.

However any of you feel, the fact of the matter is, Trump is not the first president to commit crimes, and his crimes aren't anywhere close to the worst crimes committed by a president (Torture programs, indescriminately droning/machine gunning people in afghanistan, etc.) If we are going to go after him, we should go after all of them. 

It is a good thing to see a former president actually have his day in court... still, nothing will likely come of it, and it will only bolster his campaign.


I fear those going after him really will stop at nothing now and will probably kill or jail him before allowing him to be president again.
I think they have reached a point now where they just do not give two fucks about public opinion, and at this point it's hard to know what's more terrifying.

What they'll do if he loses, or what they'll do if he wins!

I respect his bravery though!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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I wonder what black people think about a white man convicted of 34 felonies that can still run for president when they can’t even find a get a job or vote if they have a felony on their record.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
I wonder what black people think about a white man convicted of 34 felonies that can still run for president when they can’t even find a get a job or vote if they have a felony on their record.


They can run for president.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
How do I explain what? The fact that you think black people are falling in love with trump because of these prosecutions? I don’t think is true. It’s just another narrative pushed by Trump supporters. If you get three black people to show up at a trump rally, that is all you see. They put them at the front of the crowd and make sure everyone knows they were there. Trump held a rally in the Bronx, which is like 75% black and Hispanic. Almost the entire crowd was white, but we certainly got endless pictures of the ten black people wearing their maga hats.

I do think there is more support among 20 something black men, but black women and women in general are more turned off by Trump than ever.

As for shark tank guy. Wow a rich white NY businessman doesn’t like people being prosecuted for fake accounting schemes. Shocking. Why the fuck would you even listen to someone who seems to go against everything you stand for. He’s a capitalist pig. Literally the worst kind of money grubbing leech on society.


I like how wooof speaks for black people, as a white dude, usually with some, shall we say "dubious assumptions".


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ice Nine]
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I'm sure woof has a black friend, so it's totally cool.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/18/why-are-black-voters-backing-donald-trump-in-record-numbers

Nah, but I've probably fucked more black chicks than you :lol:

Does that count?


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
gopher said:
I thought he was in trouble for paying hush money to not look bad on his campaign and sway public opinion about who they would vote for

Gore won florida


Trump has four criminal cases going on.

New York: hush money
DC: January 6th
Georgia: state election fraud and forgery of official documents
Florida: classified documents

BTW, he wasn’t convicted of paying hush money. That’s not illegal. The crime was laundering his payments through his lawyer making it look like they were legitimate business expenses.


For a supposed billionaire, making this look like a business expense seems so absurd, but I suppose that masks it a bit from looking like straight up paying out a hooker to keep her trap shut.

Can't prosecute warcrimes because of executive privilege, but can prosecute felonies by individuals.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: Trump is being pursued in court, over things no other business person in America is being prosecuted for:


Woof, I like to try to be on the same sorta page with you despite our differences, but this statement comes off sycophantic to me! You can't 100% believe that can you? :sad:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
gopher said:
Why would they be able to go after him if he wasn't doing something shady


Well, firstly, let's put Trump aside for a moment. Our justice system puts innocent people in prison all of the time. You don't seriously believe they only go after guilty people, or only convict guilty people, do you?

Now add to that the fact that he is the likely winner of the next presidential election, and people absolutely despise him.


What makes you think that trump is innocent? Like are we talking exhibits or personal feelings?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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I wasn't saying he is innocent. I was just saying that a person doesn't have to do anything shady to have the justice system turn on them. That is true.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Quote:
Bigbadwooof said: Trump is being pursued in court, over things no other business person in America is being prosecuted for:


Woof, I like to try to be on the same sorta page with you despite our differences, but this statement comes off sycophantic to me! You can't 100% believe that can you? :sad:


I dunno.

Koods has convinced me to look into this a bit further...


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
I wasn't saying he is innocent. I was just saying that a person doesn't have to do anything shady to have the justice system turn on them. That is true.


I think it is generally a two tiered justice system for those with lots of money and those without, and that this verdict might be able to set a precedent to help even the playing field a little.

But yeah there's plenty of cases of white collar crime around.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Bigbadwooof said:
I wasn't saying he is innocent. I was just saying that a person doesn't have to do anything shady to have the justice system turn on them. That is true.


I think it is generally a two tiered justice system for those with lots of money and those without, and that this verdict might be able to set a precedent to help even the playing field a little.

But yeah there's plenty of cases of white collar crime around.


Trust me...

This will do no such thing. If anything, Trump's sentence will only serve to bolster the notion that we have a 2-tiered justice system.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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It's funny how we seem to come to the opposite conclusion, but hey, neither of us think he's innocent right, so that's something.

Although, him finally being convicted does bolster the notion that we've had a two tiered justice system for some time, because you believe me nelly that if any regular person did the white collar crimes trump has done, they'd be held responsible in the lick of a switch.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly] * 1
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It's a milquetoast offense....a supposed rich dude paying of a porn star and the accounting thereof.... but to say there was also zero political impetus behind the prosecution wouldn't be  the reality. Trump feeds off of that shit, so does his base. He could now be set up for the "fuck you/ fuck it" vote....more than prior prosecution.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (05/31/24 02:23 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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The state prosecutors timed it well and could have gone earlier, but they could also argue they needed the time to make an airtight case.

Sentencing 5 days before the RNC convention.. eek.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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It's almost like they want him to win again.


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