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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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I agree.  That doesn't mean it didn't get a whole lot worse today.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
You really don't see the national shame of having a felon as an ex president?  I guess when you live in a penal colony, that's a standard thing.  Here, it's the first time that has ever been the case.


For some of us it's a source of pride...

In America.. anyone can be president! :cookiemonster:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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The reputation of the US only now got worse for people who believe in a two tiered justice system, for everyone else it's an improvement to the reputation of the US for finally following through on prosecuting someone in a high position for the crimes they evidently did commit and have now been found guilty of.

Get Hillary, get Bush, get em all I say. If there's enough evidence to prosecute a guilty charge, it's the right precedent to set.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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I'm sure you do.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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You're sure I do what?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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Say "Get Hillary, get Bush, get em all"


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Coulda, shoulda y'know.

Who's next!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
The reputation of the US only now got worse for people who believe in a two tiered justice system, for everyone else it's an improvement to the reputation of the US for finally following through on prosecuting someone in a high position for the crimes they evidently did commit and have now been found guilty of.

Get Hillary, get Bush, get em all I say. If there's enough evidence to prosecute a guilty charge, it's the right precedent to set.


:beatingtodeath::justcantwait::asianofapproval:


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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This one's pretty good, too.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
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Even the juror who said they got all their news from Truth Social and Twitter voted to convict



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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
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Baby_Hitler said:
This one's pretty good, too.




How does this bitch have 50,000 fucking views already!?!

I need to start a youtube channel... I can rant about bullshit better than these people..


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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Who cares Koods?  It is absolutely naked political persecution.

Where’s the trial for bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld? What about Obama for the extrajudicial killing of an American citizen?  How about war crimes for sending cruise missiles into other sovereign nations which the US have not declared war on?

Why weren’t the presidents who authorised the cia to overthrow democratically elected governments, the training of terrorist death squads on US soil, the funnelling of drug money to fund other death squads on foreign soil so they could butcher innocent people put before the courts?

Hmm. Zero trials.  Ever.  For crimes that slaughtered thousands and thousands of people. And yet the leading opponent for a dementia patient in the next election deserves extra special attention.  All the time. For everything.

I can’t stand trump on a personal level. But the “we got him” rhetoric from a bunch of people who lack any talent at critical thinking will hoo hah and celebrate is repugnant in the same way that squealing toddlers in a library are.

From across the pacific the utterly hollow, hypocritical and ludicrous state of your political and justice system could never be made more readily apparent.

And now, as much as I HATE the prospect, I actually hope trump wins the next election. Just so I can come back here and let the self righteous tears of so many bereft cave dwellers sustain me.

Either put all of your king criminals on trial, or none.  America is a joke of a nation in 2024.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Milleresque]
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Naked political persecution?! Lol, what felonies :flowstone:

There should have been a trial for all of them, the only difference is that this one worked, probably because trump got sloppy, and left enough evidence to make it easier to do.

The fact that this case against trump was effective doesn't mean just because the ones against others weren't effective, that this one isn't legitimate.

This weird false equivalence is fascinating but blatantly clear to us now.

Bush wasn't charged so trump can't be convicted? Get real!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly] * 1
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“The only difference is that this one worked”


Care to show me sudly where any other actual lawsuit was taken for gross war crimes or anything else I mentioned?


Did you not read the part where I said charge them all for their crimes (many involving the deaths of thousands) or none?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Milleresque]
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The government would need to prosecute themselves to convict for warcrimes, even Trumps done warcrimes with assasinating Iranian leaders, and like Bush, Obama, Biden etc he got away with that. If someone can pin Biden for his warcrimes then hallelujah.

Trump commited felonies outside of war crimes here.

To be more specific, this case with trump where he was found guilty, was for fraudulently paying a porn star to keep her silence.

The difference is that the other presidents didn't commit a personal felony that makes it easy to prosecute them. No small prosecuter outside of the government itself is going to be able to make and fund a case against an ex president for war crimes.

But if one of them slipped up, and commited felonies on a personal level, well then hey, it's fair game.

Trump and other presidents alike have the protection of executive privilege for the warcrimes they've commited, but not for felonies in their personal lives. You get it?

You need a lot of time, money and evidence to make a firm legal case, and it's a lot easier to prosecute a case involving the dealings of one individual and their immediate circle than it is an entire branch of the government, let alone the leader of the government itself.

The takeaway is that Trump got sloppy and made it an easy case.


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Edited by sudly (05/31/24 12:10 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Milleresque]
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sudly said:
Naked political persecution?! Lol, what felonies :flowstone:

There should have been a trial for all of them, the only difference is that this one worked, probably because trump got sloppy, and left enough evidence to make it easier to do.

The fact that this case against trump was effective doesn't mean just because the ones against others weren't effective, that this one isn't legitimate.

This weird false equivalence is fascinating but blatantly clear to us now.

Bush wasn't charged so trump can't be convicted? Get real!


You're the one who was just saying, "Now lets go get Clinton, Bush, Cheney, etc..."

FOCUS, Suds... Milleresque is 100% right!

And to this point:

Milleresque said:
And now, as much as I HATE the prospect, I actually hope trump wins the next election. Just so I can come back here and let the self righteous tears of so many bereft cave dwellers sustain me.



I won't be voting for Trump, and I do loathe the prospect of him being elected again, but I will surely derive an immeasurable amount of joy from bathing in Mushboy's river of salty tears for a few months...

There's always a silver lining... ya know?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Hillary was on trial for the security breachment crimes she was charged with, that case didn't work out though, but as for Bush you're right I suppose, he has that executive priviledge alike when it relates to his warcrimes. Although if someone can make a case for what he did in florida to charge him? Well, that's more trying to prosecute the government branch leaders rather than the individual one for personal crimes.

Trump slipped up and dropped evidence of personal crimes, and now he's been found guilty of it. With 34 felonies. 

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For trump this trial has served as a political purpose, enabling him to frame himself as a victim of a weaponised justice system. Whether he can use that argument for the next 160 days and win back the white house is a key question that maywell decide the future direction of America.

Convicted felons can't vote in most states, but they can be president, only in America right.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Milleresque]
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Milleresque said:
“The only difference is that this one worked”


Care to show me sudly where any other actual lawsuit was taken for gross war crimes or anything else I mentioned?


Did you not read the part where I said charge them all for their crimes (many involving the deaths of thousands) or none?


The term "War Crime" doesn't really mean anything in America... Our justice system is more concerned with people fucking pornstars..

They go after Trump for mishandling classified documents, but not Biden or Clinton...

It's a whacky system, and while it is nice to see someone get knocked down from such great heights, the American "justice system" certainly has not been vindication.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Hillary was on trial for the security breachment crimes she was charged with, that case didn't work out though, but as for Bush you're right I suppose, he has that executive priviledge alike when it relates to his warcrimes. Although if someone can make a case for what he did in florida to charge him? Well, that's more trying to prosecute the government branch leaders rather than the individual one for personal crimes.

Trump slipped up and dropped evidence of personal crimes, and now he's been found guilty of it. With 34 felonies. 


Clinton erased her fucking server illegally.. That's tampering with evidence. It didn't just "not work out" lol

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For trump this trial has served as a political purpose, enabling him to frame himself as a victim of a weaponised justice system. Whether he can use that argument for the next 160 days and win back the white house is a key question that maywell decide the future direction of America.



People really just don't get it. This almost ensures Trump will win the election. If anything could possibly be done to galvanize the right, and even recruit some people from the left... this is that thing.


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Biden didn't refuse to give back the classified documents, I don't know why you  skim over that fact.

Frankly for Hillary, it is the case that the trial didn't work out in finding her guilty whether we like it or not.

How do you think this will impact independents, swing states etc.

Normies don't look at this verdict and flock to support trump.

I'm more excited to see the faceplants of people trying to defend the notion that trump is the victim here on msm when the legal basis for the verdict is layed out clearly to them.

Fyi, this was a state case, so this isn't a trial by Biden.

Plenty of people will be galvanised for trump, but I think more will become ostracised.


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