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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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Proposition 122 said:
coversall said:
I've been afk for ~1 year. What drama/big news did I miss? What's the latest trendy tek? What's the newest short cut that people are trying to defend?



Uncle Ben's has been found to be the ultimate in mushroom cultivation.
:havesomescience:



ehehe I was ammused to log back in a see a thread about UB with three pages of predictable responses and chat to it

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: coversall]
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coversall said:
I've been afk for ~1 year. What drama/big news did I miss? What's the latest trendy tek? What's the newest short cut that people are trying to defend?



Hey coversall. Good to see you back.

Check out Beef's outdated teks thread. Fits your query to a tee. Entertaining, if not 100% accurate.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies]
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Huskies said:
So I did a big harvest, not all of it fit in the dehydrator, so I put some in the fridge in a bowl. I noticed many were VERY blue, and I was like: hell yeah, potent (is this truly a myth?). ...
Thing is, I left them towards the back on the top shelf without thinking, an area that in my fridge has caused stuff to freeze.

After drying, the bluest ones look a bit sketch, by nearly turning black.
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Which made me realize: crap, did these freeze and all the cell walls burst, thus the heavy bluing? Are they considered rotten? Is the potency of them gone? Or is all fine and dandy?

I did have a tiny mouthful of 4gs wet of some blue ones, thinking that maybe if they are more potent, I might get a tiny buzz, but didnt feel anything, which is to be expected.



You nailed it. Freezing does make the cell walls burst which leads to oxidation which shows as bluing. Bluing means that some amount of the psilocin has been converted to a non-active chemical. But how much actives remain is unknown. Maybe still plenty, maybe not. So bluing definitely indicates actives were present, but doesn't tell you what remains or how active it was. It only shows how much was readily available to oxidize.

On the upside, it also doesn't mean that they are rotten at all. And looking black after dehydration is nothing to worry about. Just need to do a bio assay or miraculix test to find out how potent they are.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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Hey guys. Sorry I’m just bumping up my old question since it hasn’t been answered yet and I really don’t have any idea where to find answers. But what does FAE do exactly? Why do we need to increase FAE once pins appear?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r] * 1
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fahtster said:
Zav3r said:
Okay but what's the purpose of increasing FAE then after pins show?



I’m not a scientist or anything so this is from many observations only but like most things in life it’s all about balance.. as the mushrooms grow up into the empty space of your fruiting chamber, that space gets smaller and needs less evaporation to maintain maximum rh.  The mushrooms themselves evaporate moisture off them.  They are the end of a water cycle that starts in the substrate and goes to the fruit bodies (the sub feeds water to the mushrooms).  The fruits can only hold so much of that water.  That’s where the balance comes in… if you allow too much FAE, the fruits and sub dry out but if you don’t give them enough FAE, that water cycle gets clogged up and the water isn’t evaporated off the mushrooms fast enough and they become water-logged. 

Since the space is reduced inside the fc by the fruits themselves (that are evaporating water constantly), more FAE is needed to maintain that balance that was required when there was more space in your fc when there wasn’t wet fruits occupying it.

This is also why if you need to add water to your grow, do it by watering your substrate not your mushrooms because your substrate is where the water cycle starts and the fruits is where the cycle ends and needs to be free to evaporate.  Ie, don’t mist your fruits directly

Ime



At this point I am beginning to suspect that this is a troll account based on this and other posts.
fahtster took the time to give an excellent response above among others who gave quick answers in the "quick question, quick answer" thread.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc] * 2
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FAE, regardless of whether it’s introduced at pinning or before, is critical for proper fruit development.  Mushrooms are the spore bearing structures in the lifecycle of the organism and spores are evolved to be disbursed on the air.  Low FAE creates leggy fruit with malformed or underdeveloped caps. Here are examples to illustrate the differences between low and ample FAE of a few different species in order (the oysters are the exact same culture).  FAE is also the bane of molds and bacteria.

Low FAE


Ample FAE

Edited by Mycolorado (09/24/23 12:31 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ReverendMyc]
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I can’t find this Fahsteresponse anywhere

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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I've never used polyfil. How do I know if I pulled it through the lid tight enough? I read everywhere you should have a golfball sized wad and pull it through and trim the extra, but I probably trim off 90%? Should the entire golfball sized wad be in that hole? If not, why do we start with such a large wad if we trim off 90%?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo] * 1
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You want it as tight as possible so a large amount is used.  Trimming tidies it up, especially on the underside so it’s not hanging into the grain/getting grain stuck to it or possibly acting as a wick, potentially allowing contaminates to work their way through.  It also looks better.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28477675#28477675

This thread moves fast. It is easy to miss something. But is it is also frustrating to see people taking time to help and then being accused of neglect. Fahster's response was not the only one, yet you claimed that no one answered you.

Check my history, I don't get into petty squabbles and I am not trying to start one here. I just wanted to show appreciation for the people trying to help while being ignored. A little goes a long way. Especially on this forum.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fahtster] * 1
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Sorry I’m just reading this now. Thanks

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
You want it as tight as possible so a large amount is used.  Trimming tidies it up, especially on the underside so it’s not hanging into the grain/getting grain stuck to it or possibly acting as a wick, potentially allowing contaminates to work their way through.  It also looks better.



Yea, but how do I know if it's tight enough? It's pretty tight, my fingers hurt and I can lift the jar off by holding the poly on top. Is that tight enough? It still seems I wasted material, I think starting with less than a ping pong sized wad would have been able to get me the same result.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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Mycolorado said:
FAE, regardless of whether it’s introduced at pinning or before, is critical for proper fruit development.  Mushrooms are the spore bearing structures in the lifecycle of the organism and spores are evolved to be disbursed on the air.  Low FAE creates leggy fruit with malformed or underdeveloped caps. Here are examples to illustrate the differences between low and ample FAE of a few different species in order (the oysters are the exact same culture).  FAE is also the bane of molds and bacteria.

Low FAE



Ample FAE




Hey Colorado
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Tiamo]
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Tight as you can get it.  I use like 1/8” holes.  Polyfil is pretty cheap but use whatever amount you need to to get it tight as possible.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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Would it be worth ones time to clone PE blobs?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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Wouldn't cloning a blob make it more likely you'll get blobs?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
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Thx. I think it's OK then. I used a 6 mm or 1/4" hole.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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Zav3r said:
Do I need more FAE because of the fuzzy feet?





Hey guys, I think my question got bumped out. I don't think anybody responded (I promise I checked!) Just wondering what your thoughts are. this is after the first flush. I think I need more FAE because of the bowing stalks and the fuzzy feet. But I don't really know how to increase FAE since I already placed a gap in the lid. This is unmodded shoebox so I don't know what else to do. Thanks.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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Zav3r said:
Zav3r said:
Do I need more FAE because of the fuzzy feet?





Hey guys, I think my question got bumped out. I don't think anybody responded (I promise I checked!) Just wondering what your thoughts are. this is after the first flush. I think I need more FAE because of the bowing stalks and the fuzzy feet. But I don't really know how to increase FAE since I already placed a gap in the lid. This is unmodded shoebox so I don't know what else to do. Thanks.



If you need more FAE after popping the lids you can cut holes and cover them with SFD or micropore tape, periodically fan, and/or place an external fan blowing toward your tub.
Lowering the temp might thicken the stipes by slowly their growth as well

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MicroMycelium] * 1
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Harvest those.  Common practice on shoes is to flip the lid.  No need to mod and don’t point a fan at it.

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