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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stareatclouds]
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Just had this thought while doing my first inoculation last night.

Does flaming the needle kill any of the spore that are in the tip of the syringe when you are half way (or whatever) through doing your jars?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: YellowBelly]
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yeah flaming kills everything, that's why you spurt out a little juice to cool the needle before inoculating


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NotFromGeorgia]
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That's what I thought. I did clean the needle with an alcohol wipe as well afterwards to clean it. Let's see if I got anything to stick!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: YellowBelly]
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stareatclouds said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Why do you think gloves make things more sterile?


I don't think they're absolutely necessary, but I'd assume they ability to wipe them down with iso easier is a benefit. Have you seen how nasty our hands are under the scope, like nail beds and such? All those grooves and cracks have to be harder to sanitize. I doubt it matters much with good technique, though.


That's why scrubbing your hands is so important. To remove everything instead of attempting to kill it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: YellowBelly] * 4
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YellowBelly said:
That's what I thought. I did clean the needle with an alcohol wipe as well afterwards to clean it. Let's see if I got anything to stick!


You sanitized a sterilized needle. Don’t do that.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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What is with this “myco-quart” thing people are saying?
I’m another thread they’re saying they don’t fill up their quart jars with spawn and they call that a “myco-quart”
What is the purpose of leaving all that extra under space in the jar?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MicroMycelium] * 1
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Room to shake


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Camera93]
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Camera93 said:
Room to shake


:noyoudidawet:

And here I’ve been angrily beating mine for 5 minutes each because I fill them to the full quart mark.


So then when people talk about ratios, ex 1:2, are they implying 1 “half filled mycoquart” for 2 regular full quarts coir? Or are ratios determined by actual volume?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MicroMycelium] * 1
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1 myco quart, jar 3/4 full of grain spawn, to 2 full quarts of bulk sub is 1:2.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bajazly] * 2
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Leaving room also leaves room for g2g


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Bajazly]
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Bajazly said:
1 myco quart, jar 3/4 full of grain spawn, to 2 full quarts of bulk sub is 1:2.


0.75 =/= 1

:noyoudidawet:

If you follow that math using ratios progressively gets worse as your spawns get bigger.

Ex triple that volume for a larger tub.
3*0.75 myco = 2.25
3*2 coir = 6
2.25:6 is closer to 1:3 than 1:2

Math isn’t mathing :banghead:


I agree with the mentality to leave room for shaking and transfers, but I think people should clarify “mycoquarts” vs actual quarts when providing documentation/logs/teks. That will screw a lot of new people up, myself included apparently lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MicroMycelium] * 1
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Are you serious?  I go by weight anyway so fuck it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
Are you serious?  I go by weight anyway so fuck it.


Not everyone is as smart as a TC… but we’re trying over here.
Going by weight is definitely the best approach.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MicroMycelium] * 2
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LOL, Just saying don’t dissect it so much.  It’s as much art as it is science, if not way more.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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Exactly, I eyeball it most of the time anyway.

It's just shrooms bro.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 2
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I hate the term "mycoquart" it shouldn't even exist its not a real measurement. Jars have ML marks on them. Put so much ML of spawn with so much ML of sub and you got your ratio.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: rumfor69]
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First-timer here (who managed to misspell my username when I signed up :grin: ).  Some really basic questions.

I've been reading some of the basic teks the last few days, and saw a lot of negatives about the Uncle Ben tek (UB) concept.

I'm trying to figure out the PF tek, and if I understand correctly, you only use a few drops from the spore syringe.  Is there any reason not to try both?  Do a few drops for a PF, and use a bunch more for the UB?

For PF, is brown rice flour sold in stores or do I just get a bunch of brown rice and throw it in a blender?

And lastly, is it possible to do an ultra-tiny "monotub" in something like a cut-off 2L bottle?  I just want to test whether I can get this to work, I can always buy another spore syringe.

Thanks!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LousiWu]
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LousiWu said:
First-timer here (who managed to misspell my username when I signed up :grin: ).  Some really basic questions.

I've been reading some of the basic teks the last few days, and saw a lot of negatives about the Uncle Ben tek (UB) concept.

I'm trying to figure out the PF tek, and if I understand correctly, you only use a few drops from the spore syringe.  Is there any reason not to try both?  Do a few drops for a PF, and use a bunch more for the UB?


Yes. UB is a garbage tek very likely to fail. Don’t waste your spore syringe if you’re going to PF. PF is good place to start.

LousiWu said:
For PF, is brown rice flour sold in stores or do I just get a bunch of brown rice and throw it in a blender?



Yes. To both. You can find it in some stores, or you can grind your own from whole brown rice. Bob’s Red Mill is a brand I find often.

LousiWu said:
And lastly, is it possible to do an ultra-tiny "monotub" in something like a cut-off 2L bottle?  I just want to test whether I can get this to work, I can always buy another spore syringe.

Thanks!


Yes. Break up a PF cake into a bit of coir and fruit it in a 2L.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LousiWu] * 1
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LousiWu said:
First-timer here (who managed to misspell my username when I signed up :grin: ).  Some really basic questions.


i think you can change that in your profile settings

LousiWu said:
I've been reading some of the basic teks the last few days, and saw a lot of negatives about the Uncle Ben tek (UB) concept.


yeah it sucks. I did 8 bags while waiting for deliveries of stuff for better teks. 7 of them were super nasty, 1 colonized but smelled very sour. It's a cheap way to get used to an SAB but otherwise doesn't seem worth the effort.

LousiWu said:
I'm trying to figure out the PF tek, and if I understand correctly, you only use a few drops from the spore syringe.  Is there any reason not to try both?  Do a few drops for a PF, and use a bunch more for the UB?


Sure try both. PF tek will be a lot more likely to succeed. Aim for 0.5ml or less per UB bag but expect failure anyway.

LousiWu said:
For PF, is brown rice flour sold in stores or do I just get a bunch of brown rice and throw it in a blender?


:shrug:

LousiWu said:
And lastly, is it possible to do an ultra-tiny "monotub" in something like a cut-off 2L bottle?  I just want to test whether I can get this to work, I can always buy another spore syringe.


yes, ziploc tek

welcome to the madness!

edit-damn roscoe you're quick


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Edited by NotFromGeorgia (09/13/23 09:54 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: MicroMycelium] * 5
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MicroMycelium said:
Mycolorado said:
Are you serious?  I go by weight anyway so fuck it.


Not everyone is as smart as a TC… but we’re trying over here.
Going by weight is definitely the best approach.


Here’s a mush cult life hack for you my guy.

Stop worrying about details. Get a clean plate, sterile grains, and properly hydrated coir. You can almost not even fuck up at that point. With those things in hand you’re looking at a series of MINOR adjustments over the next year to optimize things, and that’s only if you feel like it. I know for a fact my good cultures could shit out probably another 10g per first flush if I worked on them, but I don’t care. I would rather just keep making tubs.

The absolute best thing you can do to learn all these small details you’re curious about right now is to do like 50+ shoeboxes. The experience will teach you more than anything I could just tell you.


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