Auto-SummaryThis forum post argues for a strict definition of "love" as unconditional and enduring, contrasting it with conditional feelings like "like" or "want." The author emphasizes that genuine love requires a deep understanding of a partner's strengths and flaws, and that love should not be based on superficial qualities or material gain. The post criticizes those who enter relationships expecting perfection and condemns abusive partnerships. It also touches on the fluidity of love, suggesting that one can still love someone without being "in love." The author concludes by asserting the need for a universally understood definition of love to avoid miscommunication.
Quote: Let me ask you a question. Are you still in love with all the women you said "I love you" to? You must be. According to your definition of love, it is unconditional. No matter how they feel about you now, you must still be utterly in love with them.
Indeed I am still in love with them, painful as that is. I dont feel this way about every ex-gf I've ever had, mind you, but every single one I've told that I loved got a lifetime subscription. I don't bullshit with that word like most people do.
These days I dont say 'I love you' anymore to girls unless I think they are capable of holding up their end of the bargain, which is almost never. Gets me in trouble a lot I hate it when a girl says she loves me after having known me like less than a month. Then she expects me to parrot her lie. Fuck that.
anyway, if you were hoping to catch me in a self-contradiction, you have failed.
Quote: There cannot be true love where there is attachment.
hmmm. Sounds like a new-age excuse for promiscuity to me. What logic is that statement based on? How does that follow?
here's the logic behind my definition of love: When we say we 'love' someone, the implication is that this is different from saying that we 'like' or 'want' them. How is it different? 'Like' and 'want' are conditional, 'love' is not.
Quote: Just because you love someone, doesn't mean you have to take abuse, and other negatives along for the ride. You can still love someone, and be like "Hey, sorry. I can't stay in this relationship.".
yes, abusive relationships are a problem for my theory. I really do feel for those women on COPS sometimes, I really do. I understand their inner struggle, the struggle between love and the pain it can cause.
But I never get into abusive relationships anymore. Because I don't give my heart to another person unless I know them completely, inside and out, dark side as well as light. I'll see the abusive shit way before I decide to love the person, and high tail it outta there. It did take a lot of mistakes to gain this wisdom, though. And there are a few girls out there with my love that probably don't deserve it, but its been awhile since their roster has been added to.
Near as I can tell, its a bad mistake to give your bona fide love to someone who can't give you theirs. These relationships are doomed to failure, and create a lot of pain, especially for the person who was bona fide in their love. The other person usually doesnt give a damn. But the point is, a loving relationship cant survive if the feeling isnt mutual.
Still though, lets take your statement to its extreme implication. I think it will make the necessity for a drawn line more obvious:
How petty, superficial, and downright hypocritical is it for someone to tell you they love you, but then dump you over something material and ultimately meaningless? I mean, abuse is one thing, but where do you draw the line? What if its "Hey sorry, I love you and all, but all my friend's boyfriends have nicer cars than you and I really think I'm cheating myself here. CYA" Would you say that is right?
I mean the point I'm trying to make here is that relationships arent all flowers and sunshine. There's gonna be hardships, there's gonna be things you dont like about your partner. Why does everyonme expect their partner to be perfect? NO ONE IS PERFECT!!! To a certain extant, you just have to take the good with the bad, otherwise you are just running away from your own imperfection.
Quote: Trust me, if your girlfriends would have been around long enough, sooner or later your meticulous nature would have you pointing out things about them that make them unworthy to date you.
yes, in real life I act exactly the same as I do on this internet board. I walk up to chix and go "j00r m0m!!! 0wn3d!!!!" 
please refrain from making assumptions about my personality based on the tiny fraction of my being which I expend to create this completely fictitious digital persona.
Quote: Just like anger and hate can fluctuate from day to day, moment to moment, so can love. You can love someone and not be "in love" with them. I firmly believe that you can be "in love" and down the road, still love the person, but not be in love.
hmmm, I guess I dont think of love as an emotion. It entails emotions, but it is not an emotion itself.
what does 'in love' mean to you? I mean, what differentiates it from just plain ol' 'love'? Sexual Attraction? Please tell me there is more to your definition of love than that.
Quote: There is no need to define love
there is obviously a need to have a universal definition of words, otherwise there will be miscommunication. Thats the whole point of having a language in the first place, sweetheart 
I think that the word love is obviously too ambiguously defined by our society, because different people mean different things when they say it.
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