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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Ovoidhunter said:
A young black man from new york city has a better chance of succeeding than a young white man from a trailer trash state like kentucky. African americans today are accepted into colleges with lower test scores. There have been efforts to make ammends to what happened a hundred years ago. Also their is more class mobility in the united states than anywhere else in the world. Meaning if you come from an impoverished place in America you can rise to the top and get a good job and climb the corporate ladder. Unless your just a lazy fuck who says america is systematically racists. So am I being willfully ignorant?.. nah. China is a good example of what a real systemically racist country looks like. It's funny tho nobody condems china for their treatment of the uhgur muslims. Being forcefully sterilized and placed into "re-education camps". Thats real systematic racism.


https://medium.com/illumination/why-do-americans-overestimate-social-class-mobility-20b9636349b4

You offer no support for your statement that a young black man from New York City has a better chance of succeeding than a young white man from a trailer trash state like Kentucky. Saying we have more class mobility than anywhere else in the world is just repeating a saying.

But then it gets worse after that. You say that people can rise from the bottom to the top in America (but realistically, how many do?), and if they don't they're just a lazy fuck who says America is systematically racist. So are you being willfully ignorant? Obviously.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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hes a bot yo

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 1
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Ovoidhunter said:
Who has better class mobility than us. Examples?


Pretty much every first world country and a few others.

The US only ranks #27 in the world in social mobility.

Ovoidhunter said:
I wish I was a jew. :awepreciation:


Be happy you're not black in this country.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter] * 1
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Ovoidhunter said:
A young black man from new york city has a better chance of succeeding than a young white man from a trailer trash state like kentucky.


A young man or woman of any race will Have a better chance at success in NY because of all of the people and opportunity and money that’s there . Everyone in KY is at a disadvantage because it’s a repressive racist shithole That can’t adapt to the modern world . 

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So am I being willfully ignorant?


Nah , just willfully racist .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
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Ovoidhunter said:
A young black man from new york city has a better chance of succeeding than a young white man from a trailer trash state like kentucky.


A young man or woman of any race will Have a better chance at success in NY because of all of the people and opportunity and money that’s there . Everyone in KY is at a disadvantage because it’s a repressive racist shithole That can’t adapt to the modern world . 

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So am I being willfully ignorant?


Nah , just willfully racist .


Way to Generalize a whole group of people. I'm from kentucky and im not a racist. Although their are racist and for the most part kentucky is filled with boomers who are racist. I give old people a pass tho nothing will make them change. I call people out when I see real racism. Not some watered down shit you like to pretend to call people out on.

And atleast Kentucky isnt being ravaged by covid right now. So theres that and nothing I've said has been racist so stop being so sensitive.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Ovoidhunter said:
Lol im joking. Unlike alot of people nowadays im comfortable in my white skin. I also have native american in me so I am more tan than your average white guy. It wouldve been nice to be born into a wealthy jewish family tho.


I can assure you it's not what you think it is at all. Unless you see it first hand, you wouldn't realize the stress/anxiety that goes along with that cultural obligation.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Kentucky has a Democratic Governor that believes in science


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
If it isn't systemic racism, how do you explain the fact that African Americans are overrepresented in prisons, underrepresented in corporate boardrooms, and statistically of a lower socioeconomic class?


This discussion is pointless unless we agree what we mean by racism. Also worth noting you admitted a few pages back your signature is racist which makes your utterances here sound hollow...

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
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The fact that I am racist doesn't change the fact that racism exists and is bad for society.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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I give old people a pass tho nothing will make them change. I call people out when I see real racism. Not some watered down shit you like to pretend to call people out on.



Fine I concede , your engaging in willfully watered down bullshit racism , not real old school Kentucky Southern pride racism .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
The fact that I am racist doesn't change the fact that racism exists and is bad for society.


No but your blase and glib attitude is exactly what keeps us from making progress - preaching others but unwilling to make personal changes.

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How would you know what personal changes I have/haven't made?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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So here we are forum contributors - stuck in a yes it is racism vs no it is not racism debate again, without first agreeing what racism means. Those with good memories may remember how a while ago I raised this very point and was roundly dumped on.

Let me condense the current disagreement to one very simple observation. If ANY form of unequal outcomes of a system splitting along racial lines is automatically racist then the current system is racist. As are the music industry and NBA which produce outcomes favouring Black people, finance and sector where Jewish people appear to thrive etc. There is no need to prove that anyone has intentionally designed or is running the system this way - it is racist by definition.

If, on the other hand, racism requires an action/inaction targeting a certain racial group then there is a bit of work to be done before we can establish that a system is racist. One would first need to show that the system treats different people differently depending on their race - meaning for example "your skill is good but you are White and we want a Black point guard". With this definition of racism one need to prove racial bias.

Yet here we are, again exchanging silly "it is racism" vs "no it is not racism" arguments without first agreeing on what the term actually means.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
How would you know what personal changes I have/haven't made?


I know the one you have not made - the proof is in your signature

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Growth is a process, brother.  I forgive your judgment, even if you don't forgive my imperfection.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Yes, some of us take longer than others to adjust

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo] * 1
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So I do not sound holier - I am struggling to eradicate my own racist attitudes. I always had an intensive dislike for the East European mentality and values. This social conservatism, dislike of the foreigners, putting others down, religious zealotry, peeking out through the blinds to see what the neighbours are up to - it all makes me cringe. This corner of the world is quite ethnically uniform so I guess my problem qualifies as racism? To dissolve my mental poison I now have an Indian partner and interracial child so maybe there is hope?

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Doubtful.  We'll both die reprehensible, most likely.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Ovoidhunter said:
Lol im joking. Unlike alot of people nowadays im comfortable in my white skin. I also have native american in me so I am more tan than your average white guy. It wouldve been nice to be born into a wealthy jewish family tho.


Almost all those 'wealthy jews' had nothing when they came to the country 100 years ago,

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps weakling


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