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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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Of course there are.  That's not really the biggest systemic problem, though.  The economic system is probably the biggest issue.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
Ovoidhunter said:
A young black man from new york city has a better chance of succeeding than a young white man from a trailer trash state like kentucky.



Proof?

This sounds so incredibly made up it's hard to contemplate.




Look up minority grants and scholarships. Whites are not a minority so we don't get those.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Lol, you have to be kidding.  The few thousand dollars of scholarships that a black man might get is a drop in the bucket compared to the employment barriers he will face after he graduates.  The white guy may graduate college with $10k or $20k more debt, but he'll statistically earn at least $100k more in his lifetime than the black man.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Of course there are.  That's not really the biggest systemic problem, though.  The economic system is probably the biggest issue.



Can you name the laws then? I keep hearing how there's "laws" that keep blacks down, but usually they stop there, and never get into specifics always " you know theres laws" :lol:

The economic system effects all races equally though... poor people of all colors are overrepresented in the criminal justice system and underrepresented in all corporate boardrooms

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Also their is more class mobility in the united states than anywhere else in the world.



This is a completely delusional statement. The US has terrible economic mobility.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Ovoidhunter said:
christopera said:
Ovoidhunter said:
A young black man from new york city has a better chance of succeeding than a young white man from a trailer trash state like kentucky.



Proof?

This sounds so incredibly made up it's hard to contemplate.




Look up minority grants and scholarships. Whites are not a minority so we don't get those.



Whites also benefit from race based affirmative action for college admissions


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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and profiling

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
Enlil said:
Of course there are.  That's not really the biggest systemic problem, though.  The economic system is probably the biggest issue.



Can you name the laws then? I keep hearing how there's "laws" that keep blacks down, but usually they stop there, and never get into specifics always " you know theres laws" :lol:

The economic system effects all races equally though... poor people of all colors are overrepresented in the criminal justice system and underrepresented in all corporate boardrooms



Poor people are underrepresented in corporate board rooms. 😂🤣😅

Rich people never seem to qualify for food stamps tho

Edited by koods (07/27/20 09:55 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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Also their is more class mobility in the united states than anywhere else in the world.



This is a completely delusional statement. The US has terrible economic mobility.



The United states has opportunity. Thats why so many people move there to start their lives

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
Can you name the laws then?


Many of the drug laws, for instance.  Again, it's not the biggest problem.
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The economic system effects all races equally though... poor people of all colors are overrepresented in the criminal justice system and underrepresented in all corporate boardrooms



If the economic system affects all races equally, how do you explain the fact that African Americans are overrepresented in prisons, underrepresented in corporate boardrooms, and statistically of a lower socioeconomic class?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
Also their is more class mobility in the united states than anywhere else in the world.



This is a completely delusional statement. The US has terrible economic mobility.



Who has better class mobility than us. Examples?
koods said:
Ovoidhunter said:
christopera said:
Ovoidhunter said:
A young black man from new york city has a better chance of succeeding than a young white man from a trailer trash state like kentucky.



Proof?

This sounds so incredibly made up it's hard to contemplate.




Look up minority grants and scholarships. Whites are not a minority so we don't get those.



Whites also benefit from race based affirmative action for college admissions



I assume your referring to harvard making it harder for asians to attend because statistically they have an advantage over whites. Race based affirmative action doesnt apply to african Americans in 2020. If it does please cite some proof.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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Immigrants still have positive rates of social mobility in the US. Children born to native born parents are more likely be less successful than their parents.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
MagicMush123 said:
Can you name the laws then?


Many of the drug laws, for instance.  Again, it's not the biggest problem.
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The economic system effects all races equally though... poor people of all colors are overrepresented in the criminal justice system and underrepresented in all corporate boardrooms



If the economic system affects all races equally, how do you explain the fact that African Americans are overrepresented in prisons, underrepresented in corporate boardrooms, and statistically of a lower socioeconomic class?



Drug laws... thats laughable, and thats probably the reason why no one gets in said laws ever and always just leaves it at laws.
I dont believe the us currently has systematic racism towards blacks. That being said, i believe at one point, yes there was systematic racism towards blacks or other minorities, and its possible the lingering effects of systemic racism could effect blacks to this day.
Biggest effect on your above points are poverty and black culture

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Immigrants still have positive rates of social mobility in the US. Children born to native born parents are more likely be less successful than their parents.



So the us has opportunity and economic mobility. Got it

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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I assume your referring to harvard making it harder for asians to attend because statistically they have an advantage over whites. Race based affirmative action doesnt apply to african Americans in 2020. If it does please cite some proof.



I’m saying that as race based affirmative action schemes were ended or redesigned to comply with the courts, white enrollment tended to fall.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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systematic and systemic mean different things

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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MagicMush123 said:
Biggest effect on your above points are poverty and black culture



And why do you think poverty is so rampant among African Americans?  Why do you think black culture is as it is?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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Black culture? Like the fathers being picked off by the racist judicial system so the children grow up in poverty and repeat the cycle?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Black culture? Like the fathers being picked off by the racist judicial system so the children grow up in poverty and repeat the cycle?



Blacks from poor communities who try to better themselves by doing well at school or hoping to have a career get bullied by their peers as "acting white". They hold each other down

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
MagicMush123 said:
Biggest effect on your above points are poverty and black culture



And why do you think poverty is so rampant among African Americans?  Why do you think black culture is as it is?




I already said lingering effects of past systemic racism

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