Citizen X said:

You can’t legislate morality. It’s already illegal to kill someone and yet some will still do it

There’s too many guns out there for some meager law to have any affect on gun crime

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Morel Guy said:

Citizen X said:

You can’t legislate morality. It’s already illegal to kill someone and yet some will still do it

There’s too many guns out there for some meager law to have any affect on gun crime

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Because the Government is a hypocrite and says everyone cannot take a human life....other than them, and they do it very often.

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christopera said:

Getting shot at the grocery store feels like freedom to me.

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LogicaL Chaos said:

The only way to get gun reform is more mass shootings. It has to be so commonplace, that any public place is at risk. Then and only then will senseless gun reform happen.

The 2nd Amendement was meant to protect US citizens from foreign enemies/self-protection NOT mass murder!

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Problem with that is, more people are killed by hands feet and assorted blunt objects a year than rifles (including all rifle types). That is because shooting someone is never worth it as a murder tactic, realistically you will get caught.
When purchasing a firearm they take your fingerprints, and already know the unique striations your firearm makes on bullets. All that CSI shit.

Blunt objects however can be claimed as crimes of passion (3rd degree/invol manslaughter) with the least amount of jail-time, whereas firearm killings are almost always treated as second or first degree murder due to the presence of mind required to operate a firearm; Unless a defensive use of a firearm.

christopera said:

All the hard line gun nerds not only misinterpret that line, but they also forget about the 200 years of law the reinforce the federal governments ability to regulate gun ownership.

Apparently you don't need to be a scholar to interpret it, you just need be honest, a lack of gun helps too.

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koods said:

Zyiadem said:

That comma in between the two is intentional.

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Yes. It’s not a period. The first clause is the rationale for the second clause.

The people constitute the militia, and they should be well regulated. You can own a gun but the government gets to regulate. The second amendment explicitly requires gun cucktroll

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Oh you mean the same govt. that is tearing families apart at the border and putting them in camps? They seem hella trustworthy. Not like they would legislate our guns away and then pull even scheistier shit. Ya know the govt. that killed a key witness in a massive pedophile ring because surprise, surprise they too were complicit.

Y'all oughta be    of these  gunnin for

Source: https://checkyourfact.com/2018/03/29/fact-check-hammers-fists-rifles/

Zyiadem said:

Guns are used in self defense 100,000 to 2.5 million times per year.

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4. Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments, and are both socially undesirable and illegal

We analyzed data from two national random-digit-dial surveys conducted under the auspices of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center.  Criminal court judges who read the self-reported accounts of the purported self-defense gun use rated a majority as being illegal, even assuming that the respondent had a permit to own and to carry a gun, and that the respondent had described the event honestly from his own perspective.

Hemenway, David; Miller, Matthew; Azrael, Deborah.  Gun use in the United States: Results from two national surveys.  Injury Prevention.  2000; 6:263-267.

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Zyiadem said:

LogicaL Chaos said:

The only way to get gun reform is more mass shootings. It has to be so commonplace, that any public place is at risk. Then and only then will senseless gun reform happen.

The 2nd Amendement was meant to protect US citizens from foreign enemies/self-protection NOT mass murder!

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Problem with that is, more people are killed by hands feet and assorted blunt objects a year than rifles (including all rifle types). That is because shooting someone is never worth it as a murder tactic, realistically you will get caught.
When purchasing a firearm they take your fingerprints, and already know the unique striations your firearm makes on bullets. All that CSI shit.

Blunt objects however can be claimed as crimes of passion (3rd degree/invol manslaughter) with the least amount of jail-time, whereas firearm killings are almost always treated as second or first degree murder due to the presence of mind required to operate a firearm; Unless a defensive use of a firearm.

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Ya know the govt. that killed a key witness in a massive pedophile ring because surprise, surprise they too were complicit.

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You are trying to take away a Right and a piece of my culture and I am unwilling to allow that. Why is that so hard to accept?

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I won't allow it either.

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