DontFearThePeepr said:

so if this could be managed without it being at your expense you would be ok with it? or would you just automatically assume that if there's a solution put to work on the issue that it would somehow cut into your benefit?

like what if they cut out funding for a totally unnecessary gov agency like the dea and put that funding to actual good use?

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No, making cuts to waste money on non-US citizens doesn't work for me at all. US tax revenue needs to go to the needs of US citizens. 

We have a serious homeless problem in the US, we have millions living in dire poverty. Resources going to illegals takes money away from our citizens, that's unacceptable. 

We have system that allows for legal immigration, if someone doesn't qualify, so be it.

split_by_nine said:

soo... you did not answer my question.

what specific part of your life will be affected? you and you alone. what direct impact will immigrants create to lower YOUR standard of living?

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split_by_nine said:

as time goes on, technology and automation advancements will affect the labor market more than any influx of availabe workers..

labor markets are always going to be the the lowest paid jobs. unless you are working in the administrative side, labor doesnt pay very much. thats why its drilled into our heads in high school that college is the only option if you want to live above the poverty line.

so isnt it fair to say that the US govt should offer free college courses to underprivileged peoples in order to decrease the number of homeless and poor families.

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qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

qman is a cuck to the ruling class. Maybe he enjoys being a sub idk, I don’t kink shame.

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Says the guy who's pro-immigration and pro-globalism. 

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Depends on which definition of globalism we’re using today. You realize the ruling class already doesn’t abide by borders? Borders only restrict labor. If the ruling class didn’t have us all sequestered in different nations with different labor laws and different wage systems and different standards of living, globalism would be a good thing.

You only think nationalism is good because you’re the house n*gger.  While the rest of the world slaves away in the fields, you’re baking pies and making tea. You lucked out and got the best available position for a working class human: you were born inside the imperial center, whose workers get the highest standard of living among all working classes. If you were born in Haiti something tells me you wouldn’t be so high and mighty about nationalism. Yet you still refuse to accept that where and when you happened to be born has any effect on your ideology. Sad.

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I have always stated I don't blame the migrants for wanting a better life, my issue is that it's at my expense. I guess you would suggest I should lower my standard of living to have others benefit from it, I'm not willing to do so.

Does that make my stance on nationalism hypocritical? I don't believe so.

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qman said:

XUL said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

qman is a cuck to the ruling class. Maybe he enjoys being a sub idk, I don’t kink shame.

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Says the guy who's pro-immigration and pro-globalism. 

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This.

Leftists name call. Meanwhile they have their own issues that are destroying the country.

Just remember this.

Whatever happens, the leftists will attack you personally.

Don't worry though!

They allow you to see how normally polite you are.

The left are Adult name callers who want to save the world from racism, global warming, capitalism, and the patriarchy.

Strange, they can't utter a sentence without attacking someone personally.

I can't imagine their ideas and rhetoric will make it far in the US or the world.

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Most on the left are too stupid to understand and realize they're advocates for The Elites social and economic agendas.

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qman said:

split_by_nine said:

what part of your standard of living will be lowered in conjunction with an increase of immigration to the usa? serious question qman

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We have a labor market that hasn't seen real wage growth for several decades due to immigration and globalization.  That's a serious issue that lowers US citizens standard of living.

Illegals also use up to 8 times more in tax revenue than they generate.  Who makes up the difference?  US citizens.

The Elite are always pro-immigration, it dilutes wages for ALL US citizens.  They don't give two fucks about "cultural diversity" or any of the lefts talking points.  It's always about the money.

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The Ecstatic said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

qman is a cuck to the ruling class. Maybe he enjoys being a sub idk, I don’t kink shame.

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Says the guy who's pro-immigration and pro-globalism. 

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Depends on which definition of globalism we’re using today. You realize the ruling class already doesn’t abide by borders? Borders only restrict labor. If the ruling class didn’t have us all sequestered in different nations with different labor laws and different wage systems and different standards of living, globalism would be a good thing.

You only think nationalism is good because you’re the house n*gger.  While the rest of the world slaves away in the fields, you’re baking pies and making tea. You lucked out and got the best available position for a working class human: you were born inside the imperial center, whose workers get the highest standard of living among all working classes. If you were born in Haiti something tells me you wouldn’t be so high and mighty about nationalism. Yet you still refuse to accept that where and when you happened to be born has any effect on your ideology. Sad.

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split_by_nine said:

thats not how taxes work. and not to mention the USA is in trillions of dollars in debt. if they dont use tax dollars to spend on immigrants, their not going to just put it back in our paychecks. thats very foolish way of thinking.

and wouldnt it make more sense to tax the wealthy at a higher rate? hopefully that way we folks at the bottom wouldn't be taxed as hard.


and you think only a handful pf people should be educated and not everyone? thats a very stupid thing to say "an economy can only absorb so many educated people". please elaborate on that.

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DontFearThePeepr said:

They debate but they just won't concede to the idea that their views might likely be tied to (even at a possibly subconscious level) racist leaning ideology.

What if they were refugees from a country like Norway or something? Lol

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split_by_nine said:

qman, you still have not made any attempt to answer my question, and so i dont believe that you have any real answer.

your standard of living will neither increase or decrease unless you are the one responsible for the change. blaming immigrants for something that will never affect you only leads me to believe that you have some kind of hidden agenda.

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