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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Kryptos]
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Migrants are just people like you and me. Some of them are good and some of them are bad.

I don't think we should be persecuting them and arresting them just for committing the "crime" of wanting to live in the US. Who wouldn't want to live in the US? I sure as hell would if I lived somewhere else. We're needlessly wasting talent and lives when we kick people out, and separating families and children from parents is just plain wrong.

Sure, some commit crimes, even terrible crimes, but many lead good lives, pay taxes, and help their communities. Deporting good people is both stupid and wrong. If you live in America your family immigrated at some point.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: nooneman] * 2
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We have to spend billions of dollars and ethnically cleanse our country otherwise we’ll have to spend millions of dollars by helping them.

We simply don’t have a choice.


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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: The Ecstatic]
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We have unemployment and people living on the streets. Are country is full. Just look around for christ's sakes! If we had open borders we would be living in hell.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue] * 2
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I’d love to help out the unemployed and homeless but that’s socialism and I can’t abide that. If helping our most disenfranchised Americans makes me a socialist then I’d rather just throw em in the concentration camps with the beaners.


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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
We have unemployment and people living on the streets. Are country is full. Just look around for christ's sakes! If we had open borders we would be living in hell.


But don't we have the best economy ever and the lowest unemployment ever under God-Emperor donald?

The cognitive dissonance is too much!

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
Shenmue said:
We have unemployment and people living on the streets. Are country is full. Just look around for christ's sakes! If we had open borders we would be living in hell.


But don't we have the best economy ever and the lowest unemployment ever under God-Emperor donald?

The cognitive dissonance is too much!


Actually things are getting better lol. I know you hate to hear that but it's true.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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But they're still getting worse because America is too full...while deportations are down?

EDIT: I'd also like to know how you came to the conclusion that things are "better", when bond yields have been inverted for a full quarter, and the stock market today DROPPED because of a good jobs report. Because they thought that meant the fed wasn't going to cut interest rates.

If anything, that's all the proof you need that the stock market doesn't reflect the economy. "Oh, no, things are good, maybe the Fed WON'T make money cheaper!"

Edited by Kryptos (07/06/19 12:12 AM)

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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when's the last time you helped any of these people? Like seriously lol what have you done? You don't give a shit and you know it.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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I've done plenty. I currently live with two recent immigrants that moved here and are trying to get on their feet, just like me 20 years ago. Technically, they rent my basement for $1 a month. They're college students on full ride scholarships.

And I'm someone who openly doesn't care about people. Seriously, I really don't. If you died, I wouldn't be sad. Same goes for anyone else I know.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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things are always getting better, that's a general trend of life. it's why you perceive it to be better, which is only your subjective opinion. i wonder what it would take to show people how they are objectively wrong about something lol.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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Lol see now it all makes sense.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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Be happy that you and your friends are even over here. We want legal immigrants not illegal ones. Just like every other country on the planet. If you dont like how things are going you can always go home 🤷‍♂️.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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he didn't say they were illegal, they're here on full scholarship meaning they were probably sent here through an overseas program. people capable of achieving that are some of the best and brightest in all the world. they are contributing to america's strength.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: DontFearThePeepr]
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DontFearThePeepr said:
he didn't say they were illegal, they're here on full scholarship meaning they were probably sent here through an overseas program. people capable of achieving that are some of the best and brightest in all the world. they are contributing to america's strength.


Don't worry, I'm working on moving to Germany. Sadly, they still have two years of college to go, so I either put them out or stay for those two years.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue] * 1
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Shenmue: they're Flooding Are neighborhoods and they're like mean and don't waive and thwy stink and Steal Are stuff.  and stuff. 

Shenmue:. Ackchewally things are getting better.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: nooneman]
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nooneman said:
Migrants are just people like you and me. Some of them are good and some of them are bad.

I don't think we should be persecuting them and arresting them just for committing the "crime" of wanting to live in the US. Who wouldn't want to live in the US? I sure as hell would if I lived somewhere else. We're needlessly wasting talent and lives when we kick people out, and separating families and children from parents is just plain wrong.

Sure, some commit crimes, even terrible crimes, but many lead good lives, pay taxes, and help their communities. Deporting good people is both stupid and wrong. If you live in America your family immigrated at some point.


So you're advocating for no borders, citizenship and national sovereignty. I'm sorry, but this is about having a serious discussion, not hippy pie in the sky.

BTW, my ancestors immigrated LEGALLY into the US. There was no border crisis or illegal process involved, so your comparison is completely disingenuous in nature.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
Lol When's the last time you helped any of these people? Ever give any of these people a place to stay or donate money?



hmm you know, you're actually right here. im genuinely thinking about starting a charity movement for this type of thing. this might be the only type of solution that could actually help. ppl dont want to pay taxes for it, well that's just fine. they dont realize the scams at work here and the only way out is find a way to out-scam the scammers lol.


the right type of charity might be the key to this, i might even start a thread on shroomery to help get some input/ideas on how this could possibly work. something major needs to be done, like a charity of religious proportions. up-ending religion as it currently exists and attempt to change the laws which are keeping things gridlocked in place to the utter dismay of the entire planet.


we can help these people and there's people all over the world that need this kind of help.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: DontFearThePeepr] * 1
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DontFearThePeepr said:
Shenmue said:
Lol When's the last time you helped any of these people? Ever give any of these people a place to stay or donate money?



hmm you know, you're actually right here. im genuinely thinking about starting a charity movement for this type of thing. this might be the only type of solution that could actually help. ppl dont want to pay taxes for it, well that's just fine. they dont realize the scams at work here and the only way out is find a way to out-scam the scammers lol.


the right type of charity might be the key to this, i might even start a thread on shroomery to help get some input/ideas on how this could possibly work. something major needs to be done, like a charity of religious proportions. up-ending religion as it currently exists and attempt to change the laws which are keeping things gridlocked in place to the utter dismay of the entire planet.


we can help these people and there's people all over the world that need this kind of help.


Why don't you start with helping people in your local community before you take on the task of saving the whole world? 

Do you know why so many choose to try to 'save the world' instead of starting with their local community?  Because it's impossible to even start the process and it let's them off the hook, while simultaneously feeling like they're a great and caring person.

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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: qman] * 1
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doing something to help people locally or globally are both commendable. why do you put people down for wanting to help others outside of their own area code?


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Re: Border Time Bomb, or, why we don't deport migrants anymore [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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its not impossible to send a care package to another family on the other side of the globe. any effort helps, large or small. its about helping humans, it doesnt matter what their home address is.

lets say you give help to homeless in NYC or LA, and no matter how much you help you really dont make a huge dent in grand scheme of things, but you know you helped a few. how is that any different than helping someone in another state, or time-zone, or nation? its not like you are guna solve the homelessness issues all by yourself.


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