The lurker said:
I Definitely think I know the jolts you’re talking about on mushrooms, it’s hard to describe but I’ve gotten those ever since my early days, feel free to elaborate on that I’m curious if we’re expeirencing the same thing.
I couldn’t find much about the alkaloidal properties of white sage, so I’m kinda thinking there’s not a molecule that causes intense enough effects within it, but that also doesn’t mean there’s not, or a combination of lesser known alkaloids.
I mean if I’m being honest here too me, not in a bad way, it doesn’t seem like the it’s the sage, but more the power of your mind. Maybe, this sage allowed you to bring yourself into a deep kind of meditative state, where you experienced these jolts. I kinda think if anything else besides the sage was prescribed with the same kind of effects by other humans, and is something where you can just drop everything else you’re doing and can just focus on it and relax and bring you into a meditative state, the same kind of thing would happen.
Thanks for your posts, five shrooms to your awareness and approach!
So, after digging I found the trip with the jolts here:
https://www.shroomery.org/13339/Chains-of-ego-death-Seeing-through-dimensions-and-the-Universe-collapsing
It is pretty much in the beginning already! I can explain more if you want now (since I had them more).
I smoke weed chronically for chronic nerve pains (fingers and toes). I smoke weed alone, no tobacco. Maybe one of the unseen compounds from weed plus one from the white salvia (it happened to me with different weed strains, and like I said, it deals more or less with the pain, that's it. I do not get even the start of a high (I know I still feel something but I am used to it, but my behaviors do not change.
Ironically, I never got red eyes, not even the day I smoked my first joint ever and had an ego death trip. I had consumed shrooms a lot of times already, but for some odd reason, I never smoked a joint. I had one once in my pack of cigarettes a friend gave me as we left his home. When we got to the place, my joint was gone (mystery lol, vanished from within my pocket.) But I am glad I did, as I had a lot of awesome trips at 32 during my first weeks. I do not smoke tobacco now. Only one cigarette after lunch and another after dinner because the nicotine helps me a lot with my gut.
So, I am well aware it is not the weed/strain, but it could be a small cannabinoid plus something within the white sage. But even if I breath a little, I can feel the start of it (ears feel like they are going to buzz and I feel a surge of energy in my brain.)
About the meditation part, I am glad you said it, because it is important not to sugarcoat. However, I already meditate a lot. I also go a lot into trance to do readings and healings. I have made "hot boxes" out of sage to cleanse home or for banishing rituals... So technically, breathing in a room full of white sage, should have triggered jolts too (but it did not). Even with THC in my body (otherwise, I hurt in lots of pain, poly-peripherial neuropathy is very nasty.)
Unless, it is the fact that now I am burning sage just for me sitting in front of my PC. When I cleanse myself, I do not breath it, I never thought of it. It only happens if I get the actual sage close to my face and I mouth-inhale it.
I want to make that smoke blend, and if something crazy happens, I can handle it (already happened with the weed, I never imagined. I only asked my wife to escort me to bed to trip it out. It was nighttime before sleep anyway. Heck of fun I had haha. The jolts I thought it was a psilocybin thing only, and deemed them as safe. Or maybe a reaction to an intense psychedelic effect (I know I am putting a psychedelic in my brain.) But not with a non-psychedelic?
I do not want to gamble my brain due to not enough research. But since it is odd, makes me wonder about the white sage being really safe lol (funny after DMT, shrooms, etc...) Divinorum can overdose in tincture, but otherwise it is safe too (other that the beast trip you will get... I only did the leaves as I said above and nothing -aware of reverse tolerance here-). So the best version of sage is relatively safe (and minor salvinorin A traveled through my brain, not enough to trip, but more than the entire inhale of white sage smoke.)
Walt.JS3 said:
Was just talking about this with a friend earlier. My old neighbor and his wife swore by smoking white sage for a more "spiritual high" than smoking bud. Never tried it, though i have some smudges upstairs and I'm curious after reading your post to try it myself
Yep, it was sort to "add the sage vibrations" to my actual lungs within and respiratory system. The jolt was like "what? trip? huh?" lol. But only a jolt, nothing else hehe.
It is curious and odd indeed. Hundred should have smoked it already (even some thinking it was the divinorum one haha). But seems to be nothing out there about it. A DNA thing? As long as it is safe, I am all in to try now a blend with it (and without weed, will just use mullein, which I assume is legal (I assume Zamnesia will have it haha.)
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Edited by AkashicExplorer (05/30/19 06:36 AM)
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