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Morels
    #2596762 - 04/24/04 01:18 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

They are popping up all over in southern iowa/northern missouri. Had a batch tonight, rolled in egg and flour, fried in butter. YUM!


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Re: Morels [Re: BuzzDoctor]
    #2597118 - 04/24/04 03:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

On what substrate they are usually growing ?
Someone told me that he found some over here growing on bark mulch and on fields that were fertilized with liquid manure.

Btw: a cool avatar you have ...


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Re: Morels [Re: ragadinks]
    #2598497 - 04/24/04 05:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Substrate? The ground ~ comprised of dirt, grass, leaves and sticks. Just like is in your yard. Wooded areas are usually best. They only pop in the early spring after it warms up and we get some rain and sunshine. It's not unheard of for people to find hundreds in a 50 sq yard area. People sell them around here for $5-$15 a pound. It's only for a short period that they are available tho.


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Re: Morels [Re: ragadinks]
    #2598812 - 04/24/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

you can find them frequently in old apple orchards... and in wooded areas that have burned... most of the northern half of the US and some have been located as far south as northern GA...


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Re: Morels [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2598820 - 04/24/04 09:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I have not seen morels very often here.
But I think that it must be a lot easier to grow them on bark mulch or manure compost than on burned wood substrate as it is recommended in Stamets GGMM book.


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Re: Morels [Re: ragadinks]
    #2598868 - 04/24/04 09:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

cultivating morels is difficult at best.... I was mentioning sites where they grow wild..


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Re: Morels [Re: ragadinks]
    #2599283 - 04/25/04 12:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

www.mushroomexpert.com has a lot of info on morels. It is run by a team of researchers trying to figure out the confusion of the morchella genus. They are using DNA analysis to figure out what species are what in this very similar looking genus. Some of their conclusions of taxonomy explain difficulties to replicate natual culture (ie. wrong species on wrong substrate). They also have a progress map of the "morel migration" across the USA. Check it out.


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Re: Morels [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2599483 - 04/25/04 01:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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cultivating morels is difficult at best....






Directly under where I am standing, approximatly 5 days ago, appeared these 2 cultivated morels (Morchella elata or related). (note: picture was used to illustrate they are growing under my deck, and to show how much snow we had in febuary. They are not growing in the winter of course.)



Now, its only two but the season is just beginning here and is still a bit too cold. I was waiting to see if more were to develop, but I couldn't resist posting. Harvested wild mycelium was spawned to the ashes of burned dead trees (some wood remained, not fully burned) collected from the same area they were found fruiting. The ashes were also mixed with spent substrates composted the previous year, and washed sand (sand without clay, for fill and cement work). This was done last year during the end of morel season, and the bed was disturbed slightly on the surface soon after the snow melted this year. The moss you see is found growing naturally under my deck, and was transplanted around the patch for water retention. The deck is on the 2nd story, so it does get a bit of light but very minimal, and never directly.

I will post complete details later this season, but I wanted to illustrate it can't be that hard if you have the right weather conditions for them. There are much, much harder species to grow out there with some defying all attempts. Cultivating Morels is not out of the reach of the novice cultivator (at least outdoors).


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Re: Morels [Re: ATWAR]
    #2600266 - 04/25/04 09:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for all the information.
I think I have to try it myself once.
It would be interesting what strain of morel favors which substrate.


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Re: Morels [Re: ragadinks]
    #2600353 - 04/25/04 10:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Here is a great morel site... phenotypes, anomalies, cultivation:
Morel Mushroom Evolution and Physiology of Induction

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Author's research and photographs show extreme biology and unheard of evolution in the morel mushroom including phenotypic variation, cyclic evolution and a reversion anomaly.

Summary of Morel Evolution


Descriptive Material

What morels are - describes morels.
Biology - details of morel biology.
Glossary - look up specialized terms.
Explanations - develops points on mycorrhiza, photos, endotrophism, induction and history.


Peripheral

Ice Age Theory
Plant Phenotypes
Animal Phenotypes
How to Find Morels
Creationism
Phenotypic Variation Explained
Literature Review
The Ower Procedure
The Environment does not Control Morel Variations
Automation technology is needed
Links

Research by Author

1. An Anomaly of Morchella as a Tool for the Study of Differentiation
2. Phenotypic Variation as an Adaptation Mechanism by Morchella






see "Literature Review" and "Ower Procedure" for (indoor) cultivation info..


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Re: Morels [Re: Speeker]
    #2600563 - 04/25/04 12:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)


speeker You are a cornucopia of useful information!

nice link YadakiMan

nice job ATWAR. I'll be imitating that project.


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