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selling dried morels?
    #7784978 - 12/21/07 09:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've been browsing the forum researching cultivation of various mushrooms and it hits me.. I need money.. I have a ton of dried morels, and i start to wonder if there is a buy/sell/trade on the forum.. I didn't see one.. but would it be against the rules for me to try to sell them on shroomery? If not, what would be another good place to sell them online?

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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7785016 - 12/21/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That is for the market place.


Which unfortunatly you cant see until around 50 posts it think and been registered for more than 90 days???

Im not sure exactly the rules of the market place, but if its illegal in your state/country then no you cant sell.

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Morel

Scientific classification
Kingdom: Fungi
Division: Ascomycota
Subdivision: Pezizomycotina
Class: Pezizomycetes
Order: Pezizales
Family: Morchellaceae
Genus: Morchella
Species

Morchella angusticeps
Morchella conica
Morchella costata
Morchella crassipes
Morchella elata
Morchella esculenta
Morchella gigas
Morchella semilibera
Morchella spongiola
Morchella spongiola var. dunensis
Morchella vulgaris
Morchella sp. MA4SSI73
Morchella sp. UC 1475091

Morchella, the true morels, is a genus of edible mushrooms closely related to anatomically simpler cup fungi. These distinctive mushrooms appear honeycomblike in that the upper portion is composed of a network of ridges with pits between them. These ascocarps are prized by gourmet cooks, particularly for French cuisine. Commercial value aside, morels are hunted by thousands of people every year simply for their taste and the joy of the hunt. Morels have been called by many local names; some of the more colorful include "merkels" or "miracles," based on a story of how a mountain family was saved from starvation by eating morels ["The Day the Sun Came Out" by Dorothy M. Johnson], and Dryland fish, due to their similarity in taste to fish.

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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7785044 - 12/21/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm, ok, well what if I found someone to sell them to in bulk? I have 14 pounds of them, they have been dehydrated, what can I expect to sell them for per pound (dry)?


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7785112 - 12/21/07 10:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

eBay has a pretty busy market of dried morels. I think two to three auctions for dried morels close everyday.


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7785466 - 12/21/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Hmm, ok, well what if I found someone to sell them to in bulk? I have 14 pounds of them, they have been dehydrated, what can I expect to sell them for per pound (dry)?




Man, that's a right good amount of money you're sitting on! I've seen dry Morchella go for $140 a pound.


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Hotnuts]
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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7785597 - 12/21/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It looks like they are selling for in between $90-120 a pound. I've been watching these auctions because I wish to put fresh cultivated mushrooms on eBay. I have never seen morels go unsold on eBay. I've been watching for the last couple weeks.


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7786861 - 12/21/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How would you get fresh cultivated mushrooms?

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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7789085 - 12/22/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Man, that's a right good amount of money you're sitting on! I've seen dry Morchella go for $140 a pound.




this is what i'd like to see for them! i got an offer of $95/lb for them, said he'd take them all.. idk..

now my sister has to get involved and she wants 50%, bullshit, no way i'm giving her 50%, i picked them, i'm selling them, no way.

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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7789156 - 12/22/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck.

Way off topic here, but I just got back from the grocery store and there was a company named Aromatic Organics that had dried oysters and chanty's for sale in this overdone packaging for a whopping $106 per pound!!! That's where they get you. The individual packages were $4.99, but that was for 3/4 of an ounce. Unbelievable rip off!


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #7789558 - 12/22/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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How would you get fresh cultivated mushrooms?

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Not morels, just oysters, trumpets, lions mane and pioppinos.


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7790103 - 12/22/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

*sniff* I'm so jealous. I wish morels grew around here. Good lord, you'd make about $1300 dollars at that price!
How long did it take you to pick them all?


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: bukujutsu]
    #7790512 - 12/22/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they are morels from 2 seasons, the past 2 seasons have been excellent. we own 340 acres of morel heaven.

i found 30 pounds under a single tree.

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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7791812 - 12/23/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wisconsin is like that smaller less noticeable heaven on the way to heaven.  No one bothers to stop, so it's always good.  :gethigh:


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7791986 - 12/23/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Have any of you ever seen organic mushrooms packaged up in these silly containers for such a large price? I wonder how much the cultivator is making? Geeze, I couldn't believe what I was seeing!


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7792247 - 12/23/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no?


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7793149 - 12/23/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Have any of you ever seen organic mushrooms packaged up in these silly containers for such a large price? I wonder how much the cultivator is making? Geeze, I couldn't believe what I was seeing!




Those little evil containers are a very sharp double edged sword. Bulk cultivated exotic mushrooms are a hard sell at $8-16/lb. Only grocery stores with lots of rich customers sell lots bulk mushrooms. At the majority of grocery stores it is easier to sell a product around $2.99. Most of the produce is packaged this way; two broccoli heads for $2.50, a 5lb bag of potatoes for $3.99, or a bag of carrots for 3.49. If you pay attention in the produce department you will realize very few of those price tags say price per lb, unless you look at the fine print.

The other sharp edge is that those stupid packages raise the cost of goods sold by a large percentage. For me, those packages cost around 25cents each. The two or three labels that are required cost an additional nickel to ten cents. The half pound of mushrooms that I put inside of it costs around 50-75cents max without accounting for overhead and labor.

The company that grew the mushrooms in the grocery store probably got around 20-30% of the retail price.


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7793253 - 12/23/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I looked at the unit price and it was $4.99. But then to left was the price per pound and I almost fell over. :lol: $106!


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #7797576 - 12/25/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, I looked at the unit price and it was $4.99. But then to left was the price per pound and I almost fell over. :lol: $106!




I was thinking about this yesterday while I was hiking through the everglades. The dried mushrooms really represent only about 8% of the fresh weight of the mushrooms. So the one pound that is selling for $106, is really closer to about 12 pounds of fresh mushrooms. So really the mushrooms are about $8.50 a pound (fresh price). Hopefully that assessment makes the $100/lb mushroom price a bit more palatable. When buying in bulk, I've bought a pound of Maiitake for about $50 (wild harvested in Maine).
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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
    #7815123 - 12/30/07 08:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

around here, I usually sell fresh, but something like dried morals atleast around here go for 15$ minimum an ounce and high as 19.99$. Especially during the winter, people pay such prices. They are more then porcini's or even black trumpets. Personally I'm not that big of a fan of moral's to pay such prices, and usually have my own stash of moral's from the season.


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7815139 - 12/30/07 08:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Wisconsin is like that smaller less noticeable heaven on the way to heaven.  No one bothers to stop, so it's always good.  :gethigh:





YZZ! muscoda wi, has been known as the morel' capital of the wiscompton. Anyone living close there should most definitely check it out;

http://fungifest.com/2007/muscoda-morel-mushroom-festival-2.html
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    #7816199 - 12/31/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ha i live about 15 miles from there =)


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7834628 - 01/05/08 06:52 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7837943 - 01/06/08 12:39 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

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ha i live about 15 miles from there =)





hit me up in the spring, maybe we can sniff some stump's together some time.


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    #7840773 - 01/06/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

^^yeah, im not rally looking to sell on ebay though..

^and snoot, sure. i'd be up for that


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    #7841171 - 01/06/08 08:17 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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^^yeah, im not rally looking to sell on ebay though..

^and snoot, sure. i'd be up for that




http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7841164/an/0/page/0


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    #7841588 - 01/06/08 09:48 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

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Please use your back button to return to the previous page.


thats what the link gave me.


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: palidon11]
    #7841645 - 01/06/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

o lame, you need a 100 post's to enter the gathering forum.

'Several of us were talking on IRC, and we'd like to have a campout in Wisconsin on the weekend of May 16th. The Muscoda Morel festival is that weekend, and we would probably (definitely) be doing some morel hunting. Now, I'm not from Wisconsin, but I am partnering up with my buddy snoot, who will undoubtedly find us an awesome camping spot. There probably won't be any free lodging for people the night before or after the campout, so if you plan on coming in from far away, you will need to arrange for a motel room or something yourself.

I'm handling the logistics of contacting people with info while snoot is finding us the spot. So if you plan on coming, please reply to this post by adding yourself to "the list".

http://www.muscoda.com/event_morels_08.html'

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    #7842611 - 01/07/08 08:17 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

pm about to be sent!


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    #8450156 - 05/27/08 10:45 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

*bump*

ahh shit, sorry snoot, i wish i had remembered about the may 16th camping trip.

did everyone have a good season? i expected alot more out of this season. i found 40 pounds, so i can't complain, but i'd have thought there would be more.

if anyone wants to buy some dry morels i've got them, $12 an ounce and $10 an ounce if you buy more than half a pound. let me know.


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    #8455119 - 05/28/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

The local Italian deli here in southern Wisconsin sells them for around $80 a dried pound last time I looked. They are packaged by the deli just in a big plastic tube-bag with melted ends. The mushrooms themselves are all whole and undamaged and I believe are of the 'black' variety

They also have dried chanterelles and porcini


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Re: selling dried morels? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #8459326 - 05/29/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/food.html

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http://cgi.ebay.com/MOREL-BABY-MUSHROOMS-DRIED-Blue-Mt-of-Oregon-2008_W0QQitemZ200226486193QQcmdZViewItem

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    #8474723 - 06/02/08 12:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Do you live in a place where people eat? Go to the finer restaurants around your area and they will buy them up! I used to buy wet morels for 36 bucks per pound. Not sure what you would charge for dried, go barter with your local chefs.


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