twighead said:

if you take every single Russian government official 'angle' on everything as the whole truth - which it wholeheartedly seems... That's just fucking weird, naive, and neutralizes any point to a discussion I'm sure you'll happily gloat over it

There is not a single major country on the planet you should trust the 'official story' from, especially one nearly the equal of the US in psyops/media operations (the US is still way better at it though ).

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twighead said:

For the record, as to your goofy whataboutism - yes fuck hillary she & the foundation are sketchy as fuck.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

You've got it backwards though.  I DON'T believe anything Governments tell us.  It's you who hears anything bad about Russia by our Government and assumes it is true, in spite of all the evidence I present proving it isn't.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Russia doesn't kidnap political dissidents unless they are suspected of something worse, like terrorism, in which case they get arrested.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

No, I didn't say they "have never and will never" use false charges.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

It says 11 people were arrested, 10 of whom were released within a day, except one person charged with attempting to set up an improvised explosive device on a gas pipeline.

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Two Peruvian men were initially convicted of the 2015 rape of a Peruvian woman in Ancona, but the Italian appeals court overturned the verdict and absolved them, finding that she was not a credible witness. In part of the ruling, the court noted that the suspects had found her unattractive and too "masculine" to be a credible rape victim.

Cinzia Molinaro, a lawyer for the victim, said her appeal to the Cassation contested a host of procedural problems with the acquittal verdict but said she had also cited the "absolute unacceptability" of the Italian court's reference to the victim's physical appearance.

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The appeals sentence quoted one of the suspects as saying he found the woman unattractive and had her listed as "Viking" on his cellphone.

Molinaro noted that the woman, who has since returned to Peru, had suffered such genital trauma in the rape that she required stitches.

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The case is the second to spark criticism in recent weeks in Italy, where cases of sexual violence and the murders of women regularly top the news.

Protests broke out earlier this month after an appeals court in Bologna nearly cut in half the sentence for a man who admitted to killing his partner. The court cited as one of its reasons for the reduction the "emotional storm" of jealousy that the killer experienced. Critics said the reduced sentence basically sanctioned the practice of "honor killings."

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XUL said:

Sheesh.

I feel terrible for Europeans who were crushed by the actions of undemocratically appointed German leaders in the EU.

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XUL said:

Sheesh.

I feel terrible for Europeans who were crushed by the actions of undemocratically appointed German leaders in the EU.

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qman said:

XUL said:

Sheesh.

I feel terrible for Europeans who were crushed by the actions of undemocratically appointed German leaders in the EU.

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You didn't know, millions of broke third world migrants were going to be a social-economic utopia for EU citizens.

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Pinkerton said:

qman said:

XUL said:

Sheesh.

I feel terrible for Europeans who were crushed by the actions of undemocratically appointed German leaders in the EU.

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You didn't know, millions of broke third world migrants were going to be a social-economic utopia for EU citizens.

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Why do you care so much about EU economy? Do you feel they're more worthy of a better economy than third world countries who's poverty is partly based on EU's good economy?

Besides:

Immigration has major benefits for both migrants and the host countries, but it’s important to remember that not everybody gains from the phenomenon.

Like free trade and finance, migration creates winners and losers. If Europe’s political elite doesn’t come up with ways to compensate low-skilled native workers who feel threatened or displaced by migrants, the anti-immigration wave will continue to surge.

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-two-faced-migration-reality-immigration-positives-negatives/

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shivas.wisdom said:

XUL said:

Sheesh.

I feel terrible for Europeans who were crushed by the actions of undemocratically appointed German leaders in the EU.

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Not that I expect you to have any awareness of the things you criticise, but Italy has its own problem with cultural notions of family honour leading to violence against women.

The story Tantrika brings up isn't a result of EU globalists forcing multiculturalism on poor Europeans; it's a result of Italy's shitty cultural attitude towards women.

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twighead said:

There's no mention of them even being immigrants, the perps and victim were all Peruvian - one already returned to Peru - so maybe it's not necessary to reiterate all the immigration destroying the woooooorld BS

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The being referred to as Peruvian made me take it as immigrants, my error
took the return as a fleeing back to a home country after facing oppression in Europe
appears my interpretive lens was all kinds of off 

but my concern with it was moreso the potential of the justice system of Western countries failing immigrants/foreignors who hoped for a better life or better social representation
which is where the honor killings matter was notable to me to include -- it does not strike me as great to have legal precedent that is potentially exploitable by particular traditions even if it is not made to have been in accordance with them
but apparently is the reality in how Italian law is presently handled

wonder if she feels any safer back in Peru tho

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LIMA, Peru — During the Miss Peru pageant last year, a contestant, Alessandra Bonelli, said on television that her personal trainer had sedated and raped her in 2015.

Ms. Bonelli reported the attack but said in a recent interview that investigators “made me feel guilty for what happened.” She said she had voluntarily accepted a glass of whiskey that, without her knowledge, contained a muscle relaxant.

Making matters worse, it took two years to complete a DNA test on her underwear, according to documents filed in the case. The tests showed that the semen on the garment was almost undoubtedly the trainer’s and the case is now pending.

“Most people here don’t even try to pursue their own cases,” said Ms. Bonelli, 26, adding that the stress had left her reliant on sleeping pills for a long time and unable to work for a year and a half. “They know it’s a lost cause and lost time.”

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Since 2009, the number of men accused of killing women has quadrupled, according to government statistics. In 85 percent of those cases, the victim was a current or former wife, girlfriend or partner.

Last month, according to the authorities, a man named Carlos Hualpa followed a former colleague, Eyvi Ágreda, on to a public bus and doused her with gasoline that he had concealed in a yogurt container, then set her on fire. More than half of her body was burned, and she remains in intensive care.

Mr. Hualpa’s lawyer told reporters that his client had become infatuated with Ms. Ágreda but “she was not paying attention to him.”

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Social norms have yet to catch up with the legal standards, advocates say. Last year, a congresswoman, Maritza García, was forced to resign from her position leading a legislative committee on women and families after saying women “sometimes give men the opportunity” to kill them.

“Many times, you can have an aggressor who is acting totally normal and, suddenly, the woman makes him flip out by telling him: ‘I’m leaving you’ or ‘I’m cheating on you,’” Ms. García said. “Those phrases should never be said by a woman.”

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One of the most notorious cases of sexual violence in recent years was in 2015 when Adriano Pozo was recorded attacking his girlfriend at the time, Arlette Contreras, at a hotel after a birthday party.

“I’m going to make love to you,” he told her, according to court papers. When she refused, he said, “Then I will rape you.”

At that point, Mr. Pozo pushed her to the floor, according to the court records. He choked her as she tried to resist, a medical report found. He allegedly threatened to kill her.

Ms. Contreras, a young lawyer, managed to escape from the hotel room. But Mr. Pozo, who was naked, chased her down to the lobby while being recorded by multiple security cameras.

At one point, Mr. Pozo dragged Ms. Contreras by her hair as a hotel worker tried to intervene.

Mr. Pozo’s lawyer, Juan Carlos Portugal, denied the death threat and said his client, too, was hurt.

“In our opinion, this is a domestic matter involving infidelity, the details of which I cannot reveal for reasons of gentlemanliness,” he said. “Dragging her doesn’t mean he’s going to kill her, punching her doesn’t mean he’s going to kill her.”

When Mr. Pozo, the son of a City Council member in the Andean city of Ayacucho, where the attack occurred, was arrested, he was recorded on a video telling the police, “Do you know who my father is?”

At trial, a panel of three judges, two of them men, concluded that they “had not observed in the accused hatred or rancor toward women.”

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On appeal, two other judges, a man and a woman, also acquitted Mr. Pozo. They cited a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder and said Mr. Pozo was “not capable of raping or attacking other people.”

“If in my case I can’t find justice, I don’t want to even imagine what happens behind closed doors, in a dark room with no witnesses or cameras,” Ms. Contreras said.

Last year, Ms. Contreras was presented with an award by Melania Trump, the first lady, and named one of Time magazine’s 100 Most Influential People. But at home in Ayacucho, she faced harassment. She moved to Lima, the capital, and even now dyes her hair different colors to avoid being recognized.

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Beauty pageants regularly attract criticism over being highly sexist in the way they portray females' bodies - but it appears not in Peru.

Instead of talking about their body measurements, Miss Peru 2018 participants on October 29 have highlighted statistics detailing violence against women in a bid to send out a powerful message to those watching the televised event.

The 23 contestants — all vying for the title and the chance to take part in the Miss Universe competition in Las Vegas this month — gave out a roll call of disturbing data on crimes against women in their own country.

One revealed how a girl dies every 10 minutes due to sexual exploitation while another revealed more than 70 percent of women in Peru are victims of street harassment.

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150 participants had registered for the competition and five had been victims of violence themselves, including rape.

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qman said:

Pinkerton said:

qman said:

XUL said:

Sheesh.

I feel terrible for Europeans who were crushed by the actions of undemocratically appointed German leaders in the EU.

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You didn't know, millions of broke third world migrants were going to be a social-economic utopia for EU citizens.

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Why do you care so much about EU economy? Do you feel they're more worthy of a better economy than third world countries who's poverty is partly based on EU's good economy?

Besides:

Immigration has major benefits for both migrants and the host countries, but it’s important to remember that not everybody gains from the phenomenon.

Like free trade and finance, migration creates winners and losers. If Europe’s political elite doesn’t come up with ways to compensate low-skilled native workers who feel threatened or displaced by migrants, the anti-immigration wave will continue to surge.

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-two-faced-migration-reality-immigration-positives-negatives/

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Is this a joke or something?  EU citizens don't deserve their homelands to be destroyed by broke third world migrants, it's been proven that these migrants lower the overall standard of living for the native population.

The EU migrant crisis negatively affected 99% of the EU population, it's been a social-economic disaster since day one. Don't waste your time attempting to sugarcoat a major fuckup by EU officials.

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Is this a joke or something?

No, it's valid points and you should be aware enough to realize just that.

EU citizens don't deserve their homelands to be destroyed by broke third world migrants, it's been proven that these migrants lower the overall standard of living for the native population.

EU citizens reap the benefits of third world misery and because of that these EU citizens must invite third world migrants and welcome them with open arms. But they don't, that's the problem. Most europeans are racists. Period. If they were inviting third world migrants into their society and started co-operating with them, the immigration and economy would be beneficial by large.

Third world migrants are NOT destroying EU. Native Europeans are destroying society themselves, the integration is a parody.

Now you might have numbers pointing the other way but here's another article pro-immigration for EU economy:

Refugees and migrants searching for safe havens and opportunities benefit their host nations’ economies within five years of arrival, suggests an analysis of 30 years of data from 15 countries in Western Europe.

https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-two-faced-migration-reality-immigration-positives-negatives/

What you should do qman, is reflect a bit more and try to see sides from as many perspectives as possible. "Immigrants" from third world countries are as much part of Europe as European citizens. We're one tribe. The moment you seperate "us" and "them" the economy goes down. Think a little, brother.

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Jacob Wohl reported a death threat to the Minneapolis Police Department. Small problem: he wrote the threat to himself from a fake account he created, posing as a gay Hispanic "diversity coordinator," who does not really exist.

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What a nice upstanding lad.


If you’re not familiar, Jacob also tried to convince women to make fake sexual assault allegations against Robert Mueller. The case was referred to the FBI.

“Are you prepared for federal prison”

Can someone explain how this guy hasn’t been charged for doing twice as much fake crime reporting as Jessie Smollett?

Oh, he’s also been banned by the SEC for dealing in fraudulent securities. And he’s only 20.

XUL said:

Bigbadwooof said:

XUL said:

A 4x4 farm truck with a dump will be electric and outperform diesel or reg?

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Fuck yeah. They are already building electric semi trucks that will outperform diesel semi's.

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If the pricing was right, I'd buy it then.

Although I'm headed out to the off grid. I don't know how that would work. Maybe solar, but what about winter and that? Does it still charge?

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