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Re: House Bans Coloning of Human Cells [Re: ]
    #366618 - 08/04/01 04:20 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Ban human cloning? Does this refer to whole humans or parts of them? Cloning means copying. You can clone a gene-thousands of human genes were cloned when the genome was being sequenced. All the cell lines that are used in research into cancer and other diseases are 'clones'. Is this now going to be illegal? If I accidentaly clone a human gene in my lab (has happened b4) will I have brocken a law?

Instead of the dove as the symbol of peace we should have a pillow. Its got more feathers but doesnt have that nasty sharp beak......


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Instead of the dove as the symbol of peace we should have a pillow. Its got more feathers but doesnt have that nasty sharp beak......

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Objective Morality [Re: Beery]
    #366643 - 08/04/01 09:36 AM (22 years, 8 months ago)

Beery writes:

"Moral law need not be subjective. You seem to think it always is. Moral law can be applied objectively. In that case, it is always right in every situation. Given omniscient knowledge, there is an ultimate moral right and wrong available to be found."

Beery is absolutely correct. There is such a thing as objective morality, and it does not require omniscience to discover it, although it may require omniscience to correctly APPLY it in every possible situation.

For example, I don't know for sure how to apply it to the issue at hand. To harvest stem cells from a dead fetus is not immoral. Killing a viable fetus solely to obtain stem cells IS immoral. (note the use of the word "viable").

Cloning individual cells is not immoral, whether they are human cells or animal cells. Cloning human individuals is... well, it depends. It is not immoral if the resulting individual is treated identically to every other human being who was born naturally or through in-vitro fertilization or host mothers or whatever. If the individual is cloned solely for use as an "organ bank", then clearly it is immoral. Note, however, that it is not the act of cloning that is immoral in itself.

It is not immoral to abort a three day-old clump of tissue. It IS immoral to abort a seven-month old otherwise healthy fetus if the mother's life is not in danger. Is it immoral to abort a three-month old fetus? I don't know. NO ONE who is not omniscient knows, although the more medical science progresses, the closer we come to knowing that, too.

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