Icelander said:

Right and you engaged me in conversation about that.

I actually did say in my first post how some thought the bread and wine which is supposed to represent the blood and body of christ was actually considered by some to be a mushroom.

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Icelander said:

Right I did not.  However as to the topic of the thread I stated as you did that some feel that the mushroom experience was a portal to Christ Consciousness.  My experience did not verify that. For me it was something beyond that. And I described it when asked about it.

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Understood.

There is nothing beyond Christ, but I'll rephrase it; the mushroom is a *potential portal to Christ provided that certain conditions are met - paradigm specifically.

Icelander said:

I'll repeat also then, Christ is just a story. There is much beyond the stories we tell.

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Consequently, your effort to revolt rises strength to the fact that you know little of the subject. 

Icelander said:

I'm going to say the same for you about what lies beyond the telling of stories.  Shall we keep this up forever or shall we let each other have our own experiences rather than thinking we know what is true for anyone beyond ourselves?

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Icelander said:

You're right about one thing. I've experienced nothing which resembles christ in any form in all my years of psychedelic use even if I would not have been against that.  Which is what I basically said to start this off. I experienced something without a name and which cannot be described as far as I know. You can call what you experience anything you want because I have no idea how much of anything you've actually experienced. People say all sorts of things.

The Tao says that the great Tao cannot be described. That's my only reference to Tao. There was no words to describe what I experienced. 

There's nothing for you to correct imo. You don't know what I'm talking about because you weren't there and didn't experience it. What I experienced was not christ.

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It's good to see this fact established since your experience perhaps pertains to another topic and your particular experience discussed within its correct place would garner less disagreement and potentially more amicable feedback.

Your experiences are your own, granted, though what you describe would be concluded as the Tao, which you so termed yourself.

Ineffability is not liberty to name everything anything (regardless of true Tao inexpressibility and nullification), and so my efforts of correctness are merely based on the  the fact that Christ is not the Tao.

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It's really quite simple, because it's all you ever have been.

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Icelander said:

That's about it until you started telling me what things are for me which isn't true at all.

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An unnecessary addition perhaps in your edit, especially when it is one which doesn't stand true.

My emphasis is that you definitely do not describe Christ.

It's puzzling, albeit intriguing that it reached this point before you admitted to speaking of something different.

Jesus certainly isn't a mushroom and 'Christ' is a paradigm and assigned suffix title and having acquired that paradigm.

Icelander said:

It is true. I quoted you.  That is  your words.

I was never trying to describe christ and never once said I was.  I was telling the OP what someone else said.  My initial post was not directed to you.

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