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 Spokesman
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 Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life 
#2130681 - 11/23/03 05:43 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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The first key to understanding life is to take a good look at it and its structure. Life in this planet comes in all kinds of forms but to the basic level we have plant life and us, animals. We as a animated organisms have evolved both physicly and conciously over time and i cant help but belive that the plant life from wich we live off had a major role on the direction we took. It may explain why we have diffrent races on Earth. Not every civilization ate the same thing and for that matter, weather it was alcohol, mushrooms or pot, we didnt even alter our conciousness with the same PLants. Another thing is how can we prove that plants dont also evolve??? What if when you take those 3 grams of mushrooms or that Ayuwasca tea or even those HBWR seeds, whose to say your are not consuming the highest level of evolution in plant life??? What if what we experience during our trips, spiritualy and chemicly, is a merging of conciousness between you and the powerful plant??? 
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: Spokesman]
#2130695 - 11/23/03 05:50 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with this. It seems right to me to suspect plants of having some sort of consciousness. Hell, mushrooms aren't even of this planet. I can't wait, one more week, one more week... 
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: Spokesman]
#2130706 - 11/23/03 05:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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What about synthesised psilocybin? If it gives exactly the same effect, what consciousness are you merging with? The lab technicians?
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: Spokesman]
#2130708 - 11/23/03 05:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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What if what we experience during our trips, spiritualy and chemicly, is a merging of conciousness between you and the powerful plant???
This point has been covered many times in detail. There is no merging of consciousness. The experience is PURELY chemical-based. This can be easily demonstrated by using pure synthetic psilocybin, mescaline, DMT; etc.
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: Swami]
#2130774 - 11/23/03 06:43 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Perhaps the chemicals still connect with the consciousness of the plants, synthetic or not? If I mold a key out of a different metal, it will still open my door.
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: fireworks_god]
#2130778 - 11/23/03 06:46 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Perhaps the chemicals still connect with the consciousness of the plants, synthetic or not?
You are r-e-a-l-l-y stretching here, even for you. How would the chemical know which plant to "connect" with and by what mechanism? I have magesium in my body yet feel no connection to a Boeing 747.
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: Swami]
#2130820 - 11/23/03 07:04 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said:
You are r-e-a-l-l-y stretching here, even for you. How would the chemical know which plant to "connect" with and by what mechanism? I have magesium in my body yet feel no connection to a Boeing 747.
*can't stop laughing*
Just threw that out there to see what would be said. 
*seriously can't stop laughing*
Seriously, though, hehe, I'm not sure how it would find you. Maybe that everytime the chemical enters our system, it triggers some sort of broadcaster that contacts the mycelium network. Perhaps we have had this broadcaster inside us since we started eating mushrooms, and we evolved with it.
I really don't know about much of this and am just thinking thoughts out loud, and don't really feel any attachment. Just acknowledging it as a possibillity.
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: Swami]
#2131755 - 11/24/03 05:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe I made the statement that the "Chemical" is not the consciousness/spirit. The chemical is what allows you to contact that "voice/idea/muse". That is what the spirit is, a cognitive entity, not the chemical. The chemical is like a phone number. When it is "dialed" into the neurons, the Spirit answers. Later.
Edited by medicinebag (11/24/03 05:56 AM)
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: medicinebag]
#2131851 - 11/24/03 08:30 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just because there are synthetic chemicals out there that clone the chemical structure of these plants, doesent neceseraly mean these plants arent an advance lifeform that manifest themselves through our brains. It just mean man understands how these plants affect us chemicly and like with anything else natural, they like to play God with it.
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: medicinebag]
#2131864 - 11/24/03 08:52 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like that!
Hello? Is anybody there? Is that you God, it's me, Swami, your humble servant.
*brrrrrrr*
Jose, there is no Jose here.
*click*
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Re: Our Symbiotic Relatinship With Plant Life [Re: Swami]
#2132032 - 11/24/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Medicine, this isn't meant as a flame or anything but if you talked in real life the same way you post here (with the "s and all) I think id be compelled to break off your fingers so you can't do the " thing.
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