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Droz
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The Symbiotic Balance
#2824202 - 06/24/04 01:11 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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The tree gives off the oxygen we need to breath. As we take in that oxygen giving back the carbon dioxide to make the tree grow. The sun giving the light for the tree to grow and for us to see the tree. Which do you think was first the tree that gave breath? Or the animal that gave a breath to the tree. Or was it a symbiotic balance that we both bonded together and eventually evolved into what we are today?
We also have this great balance that we must maintain with our food supply. Too many people starving, yet too many people getting fat at the same time.
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kadakuda
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: Droz]
#2824877 - 06/24/04 04:47 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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if i listen to the powers that be, plants did. earth had lotsa co2, therefor something came along that "ate" it up. Just so happens that, like everything, something turns into something. here oxygen, so some funky micro fish type guys came along. so if i apply what they tell us to the starving people thing. I can only conclude that hungry people will evolve to eat the fat people, thus shat out something that the fat people can use. thus we will have a symbiotic relationship amungst ourselves.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: kadakuda]
#2824990 - 06/24/04 05:42 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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"I can only conclude that hungry people will evolve to eat the fat people" The fat people just might eat the hungry people and have done with...
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trendal
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: Droz]
#2825003 - 06/24/04 05:48 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Evolution here on Earth has taken a long time to get where it is...and with each step along the evolutionary ladder the complexity of the system as a whole grows.
At first there were only single-cell lifeforms...anaerobic bacteria. Oxygen is toxic to them...but at the time they thrived because there was very little free oxygen in the atmosphere. As these microbes lived and died, they produced oxygen in vast quantities. Eventually the oxygen levels in the atmosphere grew to the point where the air was toxic and most of these microbes died off.... Some evolved, though, into a lifeform that could survive on oxygen. Others evolved into plant life (plankton and such) so that oxygen was no longer so toxic to them. This is all long before the land was covered with anything but rocks and bacteria...but eventually the oceans filled and life moved onto the dry ground.
Fast forward a few billion years and we have you, reading this...right now.
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Panoramix
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: trendal]
#2825804 - 06/24/04 09:48 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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And then you've got those bacteria that were all into the metabolizin' with SO2 and that crazy shit. Mind you, they're only the predomient life form around fissures at the bottom of the Ocean (most of the oceans, anyways) where wierd compounds like that are more abundant then carbon dioxide. They are not an organism that gives back to the thing that's providing them with what's needed to sustain life. Trees don't do shit for the sun. Neither do we, but if we sit around in the sun too long we can get cancerous mutations and die. Not everything's symbiotic. But we are, and more things than you'd think at first glace are, and that suits me juuuuuuust fine.
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kadakuda
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: Panoramix]
#2825847 - 06/24/04 09:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jesus, how old are you? i can hardly remember last week.
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Panoramix
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: kadakuda]
#2825918 - 06/24/04 10:10 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've been around for a good long time. Seems crazy to think that, barring accident, I can reasonably hope to live for another half-century, at least. Although I'm sure it's a very intense experience, I'm glad I'm not a mayfly or similar short-lived organism. Seems like you'd hardly be getting settled in by the time it'd be time to pack up.
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: Droz]
#2825985 - 06/24/04 10:23 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you think that maybe trees have evolved over time as well as humans? Anyone know anything about that?
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Panoramix
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Not in the manner in which trees are symbiotic to people with simple gas exchange. Photosynthesis has been around for a REALLY long time.
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kadakuda
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L-O-L.
no trees havnt evolved at all. They all apeared out of the blue as they apear today
not specific to humans, but they do have a simbiotic relationship with umm, uhh any living being that produces co2. well not so much dependant as tehre is tons of it everywhere, even before animals.
in short, yes trees probably did evolve.
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Re: The Symbiotic Balance [Re: Droz]
#2830930 - 06/26/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like trees. Where I can find a tree, I can usually find water. While the trees are soaking up the sun, and taking in my co2, they are also giving me shade, and oxygen. Some trees provide us with thier fruits, in return for us spreading some of thier seeds. Trees r kewl
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