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Re: Plants VS Humans [Re: UnenlightenedOne]
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As I said before, when you assign a purpose to dance or music, you tend to take away the sheer joy of meaningless play. When you dance to attract mates, or write music specifically to make people sad, you make the dance or music a chore. How wonderful it is to dance just for the sake of dancing, to dance like there's nobody watching. How anxious it makes us fell to dance to impress, to make ourselves look good. How great it is to just listen to music and take it for what it is, meaningless.

When a composer writes music specifically to make people sad or happy, he limits himself, he becomes obligated to arrange a particular style of music and it becomes a bit of a chore. When a composer writes music with no purpose in mind, he goes with the flow, lets things happen, lets the music come out through him. Whether it makes us sad or happy is secondary. It is still significant to us, but we can't say significant of what, but of itself. It has no purpose or meaning outside itself. Quoting Alan Watts, 'If you ask Bach what the meaning of music is he'd say listen, that is the meaning.'

When I say life is purposeless, I say there is no be-all, end-all goal outside of life when we die. It does not mean there is no meaning or purpose within life itself. As Abert Camus says, life would be better lived if it had no meaning. That is, we are not obligated to live a particular way, to follow a particular belief in order to get somewhere because there really isn't anywhere to go. You're free to do whatever you want. Understand this and you're liberated. To play is to be free.


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Re: Plants VS Humans [Re: UnenlightenedOne]
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And Terence McKenna was a nut. A conspiracy theorist at best.. I lost all respect for him when he quoted Aldous Huxley in his Food of the Gods book regarding opening the doors of perception. He said Huxley fails to mention they can be opened with drugs which is true in the passage he quoted, but if he extended the passage just a few more lines Huxley does mention they can be opened by drugs. McKenna makes it look as though he came up with the theory. Not only is he a nut, but a deceving bastard as well.


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Re: Plants VS Humans [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
Half our genes are shared with the common banana, is it any wonder that bananas produce tryptamine, an essential precursor to serotonin?


i was just eating a banana... coincidence? i think not!


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Re: Plants VS Humans [Re: entiformatie]
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cannibal!11 >:(


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Re: Plants VS Humans [Re: deff]
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when i first started doing drugs i believed that hallucinagenic plants were conscious entities that transformed themsevlves to interact with humans.
i also believed that thier intentions are largely negative.

think about it, plants fuck up your ability to correctly percieve human reality. maybe good for them (they get a platform for thier ideas and perceptions), bad for us (detached from the as of yet fully explored human reality).


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Re: Plants VS Humans [Re: truekimbo2]
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Woah man, thats a thought I've never had, hallucinogenic plants and fungi as lobbyists for the special interest kingdoms of plantae and fungi.

I dont really buy into your evaluation of the psychedlic experience as negative to human life, but you definitely raise an interesting point.

Zounds - thinking about it some more, of course if I enjoyed my time with the lobbyists I would find it hard to think critically of their message...maybe you're analysis is spot on.

Or not. Sweet to think about for 5 though. peace


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