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The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males
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What it means to be "Westernized" is rooted in the values of The French Revolution, what I like to call The Revolt Of The Beta Females And Beta Males. I mention females first because females have the real power in society and men are only percieved as having power. This is the same in nature.



As bad as HipHop is and as much as I disagree with the manner of speaking it promotes I do recognize Americas fascination with HipHop as being rooted in the same reason America is fascinated with the British monarchy.

So essentially I agree with some core values found in HipHop even though I disagree with certain cultural aspects of it. I agree with those core values that oppose the values of The French Revolution.

The French Revolution destroyed the concept of honor and bravery in Western society. Monarchy is rooted in a warrior class who conquered to get where they are. Also aristocrats would declare vendettas in order to defend their honor. In feudalistic societies bravery is treated as a virtue.

These hyper-aggressive attitudes of bravery, honor, and warrior culture are reflected in HipHop music. The reason for this is that sub-saharan(black) Africa is an aristocratic based collection of communuities due to polygamy being widely practiced in Africa.

I am not saying aristocracy is necessarily polygamous but I am saying that polygamy is inherently aristocratic. Few alpha males mate with many females while suppressing the ability of other males to mate. Wolf packs operate in a similar fashion. HipHop is an expression of this legacy of polygamous breeding patterns practiced throughout the history of Black Africa.



America on the other hand is based on the legacy of The French Revolution which is about the "common man" getting revenge on their superiors and creating a society which suppresses aristocratic behavioral traits. America is fascinated with The British Monarchy and HipHop because both reflect values and behavioral traits which have been denied throughout much of America.

The so called black crime issue is not really an issue at all but rather a reflection of differing cultural attitudes, black culture is very much influenced by the legacy of alpha males in africa mating with many women and spreading their alpha genes. And alpha does mean aggressive.

The Western revolt against the alpha female and male is going on today whether it means attacking Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, or Assad... all labeled as middle eastern dictators.



The only time in recent history that America attacked beta females and males is during WW2. Adolph Hitler was a beta male masquerading as an alpha male. The fact that he pretended to be alpha is what made the USA into siding with their historic enemies The British.

In a deeper sense being beta means being gelded, gelded for those who are not familiar with the term refers to castration. Westernization refers to a process of castration. Westernized societies are societies of neutered males and females. This is why when someone is courageous they are said to have "balls". But the balls are not only testicles, ovaries are also balls.

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines]
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My understanding of beta male was that he was someone who took (or inherited) power once the alphas beat enough of each other's heads in.


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: viktor]
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Damn dude I had no idea some one hated Betas so much!  Isn't the social hierarchy based on the relativity of the people above and below you?  How could Hitler be a beta male who was followed by soldiers you claim to be his alphas?  Why would an alpha follow around one of these gelded fucks?  Couldn't a true alpha spot that they are following a phony?

I think alpha/beta is pretty much a left hand right hand kind of thing where they are both useful and fill the same roles but one becomes dominant where the other cant.  One is not necessarily better or worse but just the second piece that makes society work.  If we all were raised by alpha males the world would be a very violent and rapey place.

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: l3estever]
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I dont hate betas, i am a beta.

I dont like the subversion of social hierarchy by many betas.

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines]
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I'm an Omega. :laugh:

It's all competition.  Those Beta's and lower etc., have used socialism etc., to rise in the pack order and challenge the Alpha's for dominance.  Pretty sneaky smart if you ask me and it often works.

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines]
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Your post shows as much knowledge and comprehension of history in general and the French Revolution in particular as one would expect from an average hip hop fan. The involuntary comic of your most ingenuous statements was hilarious, thought.


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I'm an Omega. :laugh:

It's all competition.  Those Beta's and lower etc., have used socialism etc., to rise in the pack order and challenge the Alpha's for dominance.  Pretty sneaky smart if you ask me and it often works.



I reckon in Nature it goes both ways. Sometimes a challenger uses violence to get an edge, sometimes socialism, pacifism or whatever you want to call it.

Nowadays we're so far from a state of Nature that the old alphas just get smashed. Even to be a decent gangster you have to be able to think a good bit ahead.


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: viktor]
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@easyskunkin
if you disagree with a particular statemen select which one and explain why, the fact you think im a fan of hiphop works against you because i stated clearly in the thread starting post i do not like hiphop. Since you didnt notice that and since you only made a vague statement without specifically refuting anything your criticism doesnt carry much weight at all

@viktor
I agree with you  to some extent there but my main point though is that isnt it interesting that america has an obsession with getting rid of dictators at least in terms if its rhetoric and this is clearly rooted in its democratic tradition which is based on a rejection of rule by a british aristocracy rooted in the norman conquest of england

Edited by lines (07/30/13 12:13 PM)

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines]
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What about non-black rappers who act the same way as black rappers?


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines] * 1
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lines said:
@easyskunkin
if you disagree with a particular statemen select which one and explain why, the fact you think im a fan of hiphop works against you because i stated clearly in the thread starting post i do not like hiphop. Since you didnt notice that and since you only made a vague statement without specifically refuting anything your criticism doesnt carry much weight at all





Where did I say I thought you were a fan of hip-hop and who cares ? I said you had the same grasp of history and the French Revolution as the average hip-hop fan. I used this reference since you mentioned hip-hop in your theory of everything.

I mention females first because females have the real power in society and men are only percieved (sic)as having power.

world average for women in parliament in 2011 : 19.5%. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/07/women-representation-in-politics-worldwide
If "females have the real power in society" they certainly hide it well. Do you have any evidence that the women really are the secret rulers of society ? Of course not.


I do recognize Americas (sic) fascination with HipHop as being rooted in the same reason America is fascinated with the British monarchy.

None of my American friends is fascinated with the British monarchy, and few of them think hip-hop is music. But they might not be representative. If any sector of the American population is "fascinated" by the British monarchy, I have to guess we are talking about the same people that also have a "fascination" for the intimate life of celebrities in general.

The French Revolution destroyed the concept of honor and bravery in Western society. (...) In feudalistic societies bravery is treated as a virtue.

At the time of the French Revolution, the feudal system had disappeared since at least Philippe le Bel. You are just mistaken by 450 years or so. And about the ludicrous claim that "the French Revolution destroyed the concept of honor and bravery", how do you explain that your "castrated beta males" revolutionary armies successfully repelled the assaults of two successive coalitions of your "alpha aristocrats" embracing the most powerful nations of the time, including Great Britain, the Holy Roman Empire, Prussia, Russia, Spain, Sardinia Piedmont and all other italian kingdoms just to name a few ? Not only did they repelled the honorable, brave alpha aristocrats, they went on to conquer most of Europe an even burn Moscow, in a famous episode you apparently missed, before they could be subjugated after more than 20 years of almost continuous warfare.


Etc, etc, etc...

Your theory is an historicism based on a puerile and sketchy historical knowledge and misunderstood, shallow notions of ethology.

And just to conclude on a lighter note :

This is why when someone is courageous they are said to have "balls". But the balls are not only testicles, ovaries are also balls.

:rofl2:


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L'intérêt à croire une chose n'est pas une preuve de l'existence de cette chose.
Voltaire ; Remarques sur les pensées de Pascal (1728)

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: easyskunkin]
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easyskunkin said:
lines said:
@easyskunkin
if you disagree with a particular statemen select which one and explain why, the fact you think im a fan of hiphop works against you because i stated clearly in the thread starting post i do not like hiphop. Since you didnt notice that and since you only made a vague statement without specifically refuting anything your criticism doesnt carry much weight at all





Where did I say I thought you were a fan of hip-hop and who cares ? I said you had the same grasp of history and the French Revolution as the average hip-hop fan. I used this reference since you mentioned hip-hop in your theory of everything.

I mention females first because females have the real power in society and men are only percieved (sic)as having power.

world average for women in parliament in 2011 : 19.5%. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/mar/07/women-representation-in-politics-worldwide
If "females have the real power in society" they certainly hide it well. Do you have any evidence that the women really are the secret rulers of society ? Of course not.


I do recognize Americas (sic) fascination with HipHop as being rooted in the same reason America is fascinated with the British monarchy.

None of my American friends is fascinated with the British monarchy, and few of them think hip-hop is music. But they might not be representative. If any sector of the American population is "fascinated" by the British monarchy, I have to guess we are talking about the same people that also have a "fascination" for the intimate life of celebrities in general.

The French Revolution destroyed the concept of honor and bravery in Western society. (...) In feudalistic societies bravery is treated as a virtue.

At the time of the French Revolution, the feudal system had disappeared since at least Philippe le Bel. You are just mistaken by 450 years or so. And about the ludicrous claim that "the French Revolution destroyed the concept of honor and bravery", how do you explain that your "castrated beta males" revolutionary armies successfully repelled the assaults of two successive coalitions of your "alpha aristocrats" embracing the most powerful nations of the time, including Great Britain, the Holy Roman Empire, Prussia, Russia, Spain, Sardinia Piedmont and all other italian kingdoms just to name a few ? Not only did they repelled the honorable, brave alpha aristocrats, they went on to conquer most of Europe an even burn Moscow, in a famous episode you apparently missed, before they could be subjugated after more than 20 years of almost continuous warfare.


Etc, etc, etc...

Your theory is an historicism based on a puerile and sketchy historical knowledge and misunderstood, shallow notions of ethology.

And just to conclude on a lighter note :

This is why when someone is courageous they are said to have "balls". But the balls are not only testicles, ovaries are also balls.

:rofl2:



No one but a puppet would have this few posts in this many years methinks.

And that's the truth.

Purty condescending too IMO.  What gives, puppet?

Strings need pulled more often?



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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Not familiar with the word "puppet" but then I'm not a native speaker of English nor do I live in an English-speaking country, so you will have to explain. By context I suppose it is an insult.


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L'intérêt à croire une chose n'est pas une preuve de l'existence de cette chose.
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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: easyskunkin]
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my family was mostly wiped out by the french revolution.
betas always outnumber alphas.
but alphas, always have way more fun.

revolutions of past, mean little,
the coming revolutions, mean alot.


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: anne halonium]
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Women have the real power in society because they select which males pass on their genetics and determine what traits are desirable. So basically they control human evolution. Men function as suitors for women. Maybe it is possible to change this, i dont know but i do not want to go too much off topic.

Edited by lines (07/30/13 04:17 PM)

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines]
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^ 5 bonus shrooms for that statement!


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines]
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anne halonium said:
my family was mostly wiped out by the french revolution.
betas always outnumber alphas.
but alphas, always have way more fun.

revolutions of past, mean little,
the coming revolutions, mean alot.





Is your family still loyal to France?

What was good about the american revolution is that it wasnt a real revolution, it was actually a war for independence... The British Monarchy didnt seem to be negatively affected by it at all.

The French revolution seemed like a genocide to me because according to what I read aristocratic families tended to be Frankish, but not all Frankish people in France were/are aristocrats... There are many working class franks too. And much of the revolutionaries were Gauls i think. Correct me if i am wrong. But it seemed like a sort of race war.

I think France is majority gaul and minority frank. My guess. Im really not an expert on the ethnic history of france so these are just guesswork ...

Edited by lines (07/30/13 04:24 PM)

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: lines]
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loyal to france?
you mean the socialist occupied one?

never.
whole place went to hell,
after my branch of the family escaped.


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: anne halonium]
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Were did they escape to? Britain? America?

It is really sad what happened to France.

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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: anne halonium]
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america, but then we scattered.
some went back to europe.

america, ceased to be any fun after the civil war.


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Re: The French Revolution, A Revolt Against Alpha Females/Males [Re: anne halonium]
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anne halonium said:
america, but then we scattered.
some went back to europe.

america, ceased to be any fun after the civil war.




Intriguing.

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