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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: 57-71]
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57-71 said:
I think the expression "matter of factly" is meant to convey someone speaking with authority that does not exist.

It could be said to be Coprolalia.
Copro - Greek - Kopros is translated as feces.
lalia - Greek - to talk.


YAWN..


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: GreeNmOld]
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Here we have another one who debates by Neener Neener instead of rational discourse. Again, par for the course around here.

It's also against the rules. If you have nothing to contribute, don't derail the thread with noise. :nono:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: sexybutsparkly]
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I know!  I love like the way she talks, so fucking cute!


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
Here we have another one who debates by Neener Neener instead of rational discourse. Again, par for the course around here.

It's also against the rules. If you have nothing to contribute, don't derail the thread with noise. :nono:


as i have stated many times... state 1 fact......


its not possible, and language is ultimately meaningless..


"rational discourse" is impossible by definition...??


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: Thegribbs]
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Thegribbs said:
I know!  I love like the way she talks, so fucking cute!



got some lube???


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: GreeNmOld] * 1
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I don't give a fuck.

If you have nothing to contribute, don't post a yawn. Noise derails the thread. It is against the rules. Contribute substance or shut up. You've been warned.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: 57-71]
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57-71 said:
I think the expression "matter of factly" is meant to convey someone speaking with authority that does not exist.

It could be said to be Coprolalia.
Copro - Greek - Kopros is translated as feces.
lalia - Greek - to talk.


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i'm not sure what u mean by this..??

can u help me understand?

ty


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: GreeNmOld]
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Strap a bomb to the chickens head when its life expectancy is about to expire then detonate.

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: GreeNmOld]
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GreeNmOld said:
57-71 said:
I think the expression "matter of factly" is meant to convey someone speaking with authority that does not exist.

It could be said to be Coprolalia.
Copro - Greek - Kopros is translated as feces.
lalia - Greek - to talk.


...

i'm not sure what u mean by this..??

can u help me understand?

ty


It means he is talking shit.

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: johnm214]
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johnm214 said:
MarkostheGnostic said:
I'm vegan too. Your mom's request would be considered abuse if you were a minor.



You just make this shit up as you go along, don't you?

Around here you can beat your kids to get them to do work that would be a crime if a business paid them.  Children have no rights in most parts of the US at all- no rights to medical treatment, no rights to refuse medical treatment, no rights to property, no rights to work or welfare, et cet.







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As it stands, her request is unethical, immoral, manipulative of you, disrespectful of your superior empathy, and just plain wrong on all fronts.



huh?

How is it unethical to kill chickens if you have a vegan child?  This is stupid. 

wormwood whack said:
. A vegan for health purposes i understand


I don't.  I respect the ethical vegans more.  The people I have the least respect for are the idiots who want to ban the slaughter of dogs or make it a crime to use a mousetrap (which it actually is in my state, though I don't think the legislature intended it, they're just too ignorant to know what they voted on), while buying factory-farmed beef.


My friend cant eat meat due to certain proteins only found in meat bearing animals so the entire family has stopped eating meat so she doesn't feel left out and instead use protein supplements. That's what i mean by health purposes.


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: sexybutsparkly]
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Chop it's head off with an axe.


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: sexybutsparkly]
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Kosher kill them. Look it up. It sortof lulls the bird the way you hold them, and puts them out of their misery without undue struggle.

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: xFrockx]
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What are you talking about? Kosher is one of the most barbaric ways to kill an animal. As is halal, what religious morons of the muslim variety inflict on the unfortunate animals they torture to death before eating.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
What are you talking about? Kosher is one of the most barbaric ways to kill an animal. As is halal, what religious morons of the muslim variety inflict on the unfortunate animals they torture to death before eating.


I saw a video of a kosher/halal kill.  It was very :feelsbadman: and disgusting.


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: Diploid]
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I've seen how it's done and it appears to me that putting the animal in the position for a kosher kill keeps it from struggling, then it just bleeds out, not so bad at all. If we're going to call killing animals barbaric, let's not split hairs. If the government killed you against your will while you watched your favorite movie with a colorless, odorless gas that caused no pain, would you consider it to be better than if the government killed you against your will with a knife?

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: xFrockx]
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my grandma would whack one with the broom handle and knock its head silly, then say "pick it up for me".. I had a scary childhood.


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: xFrockx]
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I've seen how it's done and it appears to me that putting the animal in the position for a kosher kill keeps it from struggling

That's the theory. It doesn't work that way in practice. In commercial slaughter a cow is (supposed to be) stunned senseless before it's killed. In kosher its head is locked in a steel cage while the animal is conscious. Naturally if freaks out and struggles but its head is held tight by the cage. The animal often injures itself as it panics when it finds its head is trapped and it can't run from predators.

Then the butcher cuts the animals neck, further panicking it, and steps back to watch the poor animal slowly bleed to death. Because god doesn't want jews to eat blood. Nevermind that no process is going to remove all the blood, so it's pointless animal torture to please an invisible friend who also demands they torture baby boys by mutilating their penis without anesthetics.

Fuck jews. And fuck muslims, catholics, and all the rest. Fuck them all. They bring more misery, hatred, suffering, and death to mankind than all the evil they rile about combined.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: Diploid] * 1
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With your pee pee

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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: 57-71]
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57-71 said:
MarkostheGnostic said:
As it stands, her request is unethical, immoral, manipulative of you, disrespectful of your superior empathy, and just plain wrong on all fronts.


Please explain how the killing and eating of meat bearing animals raised for that very purpose is unethical and immoral.

Please explain how involving one's offspring in a quest to decide the most compassionate method to render a chicken lifeless is unethical, immoral, and manipulative. For all you know the vegan choice for sexybutsparkly is a relative new venture. Likely she was raised on those same chickens most of her young life.

Please explain how not killing/eating chickens (meat) endows one with superior empathy - or is is simply a self-smug attitude of moral superiority for being a vegan?


I am not being smug. That is your projection. I've eaten meat since quitting veganism when I was 21 - 38 years ago. I only recently (6 months as of yesterday) stopped eating animals or their products. It is a dietary experiment. I am motivated by my physical health, not by empathy and compassion. So your attack on my moral superiority is groundless. I aspire to higher levels of empathy and compassion, which are, according to Buddhism and some other frameworks, clearly the moral high ground. The immorality I mentioned refers to the manipulative parent. Perhaps you are closer in age to being someone's child than to being someone's parent (or grandparent, as in my case), and do not see the parent's behavior as I do. As a counselor for children, I have had to deal with Haitian immigrants who could not shed their programming, and instead of going to a nearby supermarket, forced their children to kill pigs in the most cruel ways, hacking at a screaming, terrified animal as it ran around with a leg hacked off. If there is no need to butcher an animal, and if you have no clue as to do so humanely, then it is immoral to cause such suffering by setting your child to the task.  People I know who have raised chickens, sometimes initially for food, became aware of their chickens' own awareness and even affection. Subsequently, the awareness of the sentience of those chickens was sufficient to change those peoples' minds about killing and eating their chickens - or  any chickens in fact.


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Re: what is the nicest way to kill a chicken? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
I've seen how it's done and it appears to me that putting the animal in the position for a kosher kill keeps it from struggling

That's the theory. It doesn't work that way in practice. In commercial slaughter a cow is (supposed to be) stunned senseless before it's killed. In kosher its head is locked in a steel cage while the animal is conscious. Naturally if freaks out and struggles but its head is held tight by the cage. The animal often injures itself as it panics when it finds its head is trapped and it can't run from predators.

Then the butcher cuts the animals neck, further panicking it, and steps back to watch the poor animal slowly bleed to death. Because god doesn't want jews to eat blood. Nevermind that no process is going to remove all the blood, so it's pointless animal torture to please an invisible friend who also demands they torture baby boys by mutilating their penis without anesthetics.

Fuck jews. And fuck muslims, catholics, and all the rest. Fuck them all. They bring more misery, hatred, suffering, and death to mankind than all the evil they rile about combined.


True dat.  I'm pretty angry that my dick was mutilated at birth.  I didn't actually start masturbating until I was 17.  I think it's related to being circumcized.  Because I definitely tried to jerk off but had a hard time(No pun intended) reaching climax.


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