PocketLady said:

I've taken mushrooms at least 30+ times and acid 3 times.  I had a thought on mushrooms once that acid does not provide a genuine spiritual experience, only a fake one.  I've had what seem like spiritual insights from both drugs but is it possible one is more genuine than the other?

Edit:  To clarify, I guess I am talking more about spiritual revelations and the thoughts that I have on these substances.

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The Chronic said:

I much prefer taking mushrooms both in theory & practice

I like that they spring up from the ground so nature has provided the perfect entheogen for you ready made, they are also easy to grow yourself if they dont grow locally during mushroom season, whereas making lsd is complicated, and if you find it (or it finds you) can you really trust the source with all these RC's knocking about?

In practice i find mushrooms easier on my system physically, i can feel LSD in my blood/system for days afterwards, whereas mushrooms feel clean & cleansing, i also find that mushrooms can be slightly less visual & more emotion oriented whereas LSD was very visual for me, which for the purpose of spirituality/meditation can be distracting, on mushrooms i find i can meditate into/with the visions, but on LSD the visions have more control, LSD may be better for the inexperienced tripper who just wants to see some 'crazy shit', i remember when i first started tripping i wanted more visual excitement that the mushrooms just weren't giving me

I really recommend finding wild mushrooms if you can, ime the mushrooms local to you are the best ones to take, and if your one of the ones who prefer the 'organic' side of mushrooms vs LSD, having wild mushrooms grown in your country further adds to that preference, the best overall experience i've had so far was from liberty caps which grow wild here in the UK, and the satisfaction of finding them is incomparable to scoring tabs of LSD from a drug dealer, i find anyway

Im definitely on the organic side of things, not to say inorganic is lesser, just that in my system organic works better, i could see myself tripping on mushrooms once a month or even a week for the rest of my life & being mentally & physically healthy, but i couldn't say the same about LSD

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Yeah I can relate to that.  Mushrooms definitely do feel so cleansing and leave me with an afterglow for ages.  It feels like the healthiest drug in the world.  I hate to have favourites but I think they do take the biscuit for me.  I'm also in the UK and am enjoying hunting season at the moment

Mad Season said:

allseeingike said:

for me lsd does not work in a party setting either i tripped once and had invited people over and it ended with everyone bored out of their mind while i laid on the floor laughing hysterically while staring at the ceiling for hours having epiphany after epiphany. but it is way better when i take it alone the same with mushrooms only difference is that with mushrooms i sit in one spot and barely move on lsd i want to move and feel every muscle in my body it feels like im sober but to a different extent i feel more human and in touch with everything.

with mushrooms its like a drunk sleepy high and very hard to balance myself on it. on lsd i feel like im experiencing perfection within on mushrooms i experience perfection outside in everything in the universe. both are very spiritual and in the end take me to the same place but it is a different ride. they each hold a special place in my heart they are polar opposites yet they are identical.

although ive yet to take massive doses of lsd like i have with mushrooms but that will change very very soon

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I see your point. However that's precisely why I love shrooms. I love doing absolutely nothing because doing anything clouds my thoughts. Under shrooms I don't want my body to be moving and I don't want anything distracting me. I feel shrooms automatically make me meditate which is why I feel they're way more spiritual. To me running around seeing everything in a new light is nothing like what shrooms teach. Actually the fact u think they both end in the same place makes me question your experience.

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crkhd said:

The samadhis you enter are the exact same samadhis. Having experienced both sober and psychedelic induced samadhis, I observe zero difference between the two. Since there is no difference between these absorptive states and the psychedelic states, there is even less of a difference between various psychedelics.


However what's important is what you do in sober life. If you do deeds that promote suffering then these insights are useless. The prime difference that you see between drug-induced realised beings and those on the hard sober path is that the latter actively practise spirituality and it penetrates every single aspect of their lives.

Taking a 10-strip or eating some shrooms does not make you a 'guru' or a realised one. It is your deeds which do that. And taking drugs and partying does not make you enlightened in any way shape or form. Yet these very same tools put you in the very same samadhis. Essentially, the insights are genuine. But is the person genuine?

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Mad Season said:

allseeingike said:

for me lsd does not work in a party setting either i tripped once and had invited people over and it ended with everyone bored out of their mind while i laid on the floor laughing hysterically while staring at the ceiling for hours having epiphany after epiphany. but it is way better when i take it alone the same with mushrooms only difference is that with mushrooms i sit in one spot and barely move on lsd i want to move and feel every muscle in my body it feels like im sober but to a different extent i feel more human and in touch with everything.

with mushrooms its like a drunk sleepy high and very hard to balance myself on it. on lsd i feel like im experiencing perfection within on mushrooms i experience perfection outside in everything in the universe. both are very spiritual and in the end take me to the same place but it is a different ride. they each hold a special place in my heart they are polar opposites yet they are identical.

although ive yet to take massive doses of lsd like i have with mushrooms but that will change very very soon

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I see your point. However that's precisely why I love shrooms. I love doing absolutely nothing because doing anything clouds my thoughts. Under shrooms I don't want my body to be moving and I don't want anything distracting me. I feel shrooms automatically make me meditate which is why I feel they're way more spiritual. To me running around seeing everything in a new light is nothing like what shrooms teach. Actually the fact u think they both end in the same place makes me question your experience.

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