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Re: The Creation of God [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #16057302 - 04/07/12 02:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It took some effort I'll agree but I dismissed it as god.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Icelander]
    #16057317 - 04/07/12 02:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

what's the alternative?


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: thefloodbehind]
    #16057335 - 04/07/12 02:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

living


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Icelander]
    #16057621 - 04/07/12 03:57 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Whatever helps you sleep at night, settles your stomach, quenches your thirst, eases your pain.

At this present moment of writing this I am blinded by a depressive-manic episode of which description I am ill fit to give since I cannot uphold values of yestermoment (the cause) in the now of what is (the cause amplified). But my best guess is I am reaching out for externals of next moment in order to pacify the calm beast of saturn, who has successfully negotiated my morals into the dirt. Teetering from non animal eating spiritual to burger consuming meat sack.

Spiraling spiraling spiraling. I am like a stalling jet who's pilot has forgotten the means of maneuver to a platonic coasting.

The body laughs and is enjoying the pleasure I brought today. Cheeseburger for breakfast, giant iced coffee with extra coffee, and herb. It won't last, already as I write this the sensation pleasure is fleeting, being replaced with anxiety. Impermanent just the same.

Where is God at this moment? My mind is locked and totally identified with the 'pain' of existence. If you asked me about God a snarl erupts within my depths, a snarl of get the fuck out of here while I'm busy being pissed off. And my life is good right now! Totally irrational behavior. Yet who recognizes the irrationality of it?

But really though, does your idea of God stay consistent day to day? Is there anything that has not changed

My apologies for the self bashing centered ramble, not trying to derail.

My friend's brother is in the ward locked up right now after a brief stint of "I am Jesus, I am smarter then everyone."

Internalizing God or externalizing God. Identifying with your idea of God or someone else's idea. My question is why does God even matter to this moment right now? He/She/It/Tits made it possible? I am here because of thousands of years of fucking, no?

Something inside hopes that love/joy/peace can be found, a matter of opening up and accepting it.


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Kupo]
    #16057949 - 04/07/12 05:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Whatever helps you sleep at night, settles your stomach, quenches your thirst, eases your pain.

One of the better definitions of god that I've seen. :thumbup:

Sorry to hear about your troubles as I know that place. It's almost a friend now in the sense of the quote "been down so goddamned long that it looks like up to me"

God does not matter to the moment that's why I replied to the above poster that very idea. 

So carry on wayward son.:sun:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Icelander]
    #16059647 - 04/08/12 01:16 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

These are words.


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Symbols]
    #16059982 - 04/08/12 05:51 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Symbols]
    #16060071 - 04/08/12 06:54 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

High time for a bad joke eel. :facepalm:


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: cbub]
    #16073285 - 04/10/12 11:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

the creation of god correlates with the big bang.  I believe god as we know god to be today is a representation of the Vedic god Indra.  Check it out for yourself. 

Known as the god of the gods... He is the king of gods/Lord of heaven often depicted riding a white elephant.  He existed before everything.  His weapons is the vajra, translates in to diamond or lightning (unstoppable force) and the bow.  He killed a serpent that was destroying humanity resulting in a flood.  The rainbow is called Indra's Bow in sanskrit symoloizing the bridge to the gods.  According to the pre-vedic indian myth a white elephant is depicted with the world on Indra's back.  He was later replaced with Ganesh, a white elephant.  Ganesh is known as the lord of hosts, and the remover of obstacles (sin/ignorance). 
This Indra  is beginning to sound like the God of Abraham.  He is the lord of heaven and rules with an unstoppable weapon, that he used to defeat a serpent, and has been around since before earth.  In the other, presumably right hand he holds the only way to get to heaven (just as Jesus is the only way to get to heaven...  Later he is replaced with Ganesh who is the lord of hosts, capable of removing sin (just like Jesus). 

Another intersting interpreation of creation is the sound made by the earth as it rotates around the sun.  136.1 Hz is the frequency.  It is the "Ohm" (or aum) sound.  The sound was later transformed into the word "amen"...  Makes the gospel of John creation have a new meaning. 
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In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Amen


 
Amen being the name/sound of God, as opposed to "I believe," the translation I was taught at Catholic school.
As much as I detest the new testament, it seems that John was imprinting ancient wisdom into Christianity.  I have no idea how the Catholic church let that slip by when making the Bible. 
Other parts of the Bible that are changed forever in my mind:
Psalm 33:6
Quote:

By the word of the LORD the heavens were made,  their starry host by the breath of his mouth.


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  ...breath of his mouth, or sound of..., or vibration of...
Genesis 1:2/3,
Quote:

Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.  [3] And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.



Again saying God's sound/vibration created something out of nothing
Genesis 2:7
Quote:

Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.



God's breath/vibration creating man.

Some interesting food for thought...


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Symbols]
    #16073406 - 04/11/12 12:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Symbols said:
These are words.




Indeed.

WorldWideWInton,

'In the beginning was the Brahman with whom was the Word.' (Vedas)

'In the beginning was the Word.' (St. John, 1:1)

Also, I have read that the frequency of the Earth's rotation is 194.75 hz, which we perceive as the tone of a note found within the range of an audible G. Where did you source 136.1 hz from? The source I am using is Jonathan Goldman's book "Healing Sounds".


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: Kupo]
    #16073719 - 04/11/12 01:45 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

All over the internet... not the best source but hey
From wiki...
Quote:

36.1 Hertz or 136.1 Hz is the standard frequency of the Om tuning fork. It’s also the sound signature of the earth as it travels around the sun... ...If one year, the time for the earth to orbit the sun, is one cycle of a sound wave, raising that sound by 32 octaves into the audible range gives 136.1 Hz.[1]




http://www.klangwirkstoff.de/html-en/kosmischeoktave.html

When raising a tiny number 2^32 times, 136.1 and 194.75 are pretty close...


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Re: The Creation of God [Re: WorldWideWInton]
    #16077396 - 04/11/12 08:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Nice, thank you!


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