Quote: 10) Coldshocking is useful .
Others have already pointed out that coldshocking is needed in MYCOLOGY. But if you want to keep it cube specific, I think you need to go back to the basic of cold shocking and you'll see that it may not apply at all to what you have experienced. Cold shocking is the lowering of substrate temperature to 5-20 deg below OPTIMUM COLONIZATION TEMPS. Most people don't innoculate, colonize, case and fruit at 84 deg F. If you did, you would see that at 84 deg, a "cold shock" is very much helpful with cubensis. Granted, for people who are colonizing their casings at 70-75 deg (most people) a cold shock won't help all that much. That's because they already missed the boat with optimum temps. Cold shocking is very helpful under the circumstances that it was intended for.
Quote: 8) One cubensis strain is more potent than another
I actually agree with you on this one. I actually understand what you meant about bluing as well. It's possible that a shroom have 10% psilocybin, .00001% psilocin, and therefore be very potent but blue very little when damaged. Unlikely, but possible. But potency from strain to strain. I'm not convinced, never will be convinced. Not until a LOT more research is done tying in all factors to potency. Some strains may be more or less affected by temperature, some strains potency may be more or less affected by substrate or even uv light exposure. Until all these studies are done with enough strains to yield comparable data, the juries out.
Personally, yeah I've thought I could tell a difference between strains myself. But it was scewed. Example, I used to think PF was the most potent strain availble. Cuz it was the only one I'd ever grown and I believed PF. Oops a year later I was anti-pf, and swore that PF strain was weak. Years later I realize that my expectations were getting the better of me and that PF is actually a very nice strain.
Also, grew every strain availble up to the point when I quit. Gave literally hundreds of trips to friends and asked them to comment on potency. Everybody had an opinion, but it was never consistent with what I knew about the strain they got and what other people said about the same strain. Blind studies of field bio-assays carry more weight with real world experiences than some extremely limited paramater lab studies. Yes, we all know potency varries, and we know that it varries for lots of reasons, including genetics. That's where the specific knowledge ends and speculation, extrapolation and yes MYTH begin.
IMO, if you say "Golden Teacher is more potent than Treasure Coast" you are perpetuating a myth, or at least an incomplete statement. I've seen too many people swear up and down that TC's were stronger than GT's, even though all they knew was that they were different "batches". Maybe thought they were from different cow fields or states, or whatever. Fact is in hundreds of blind studies, other factors prevented strain from being a consistent factor in percieved (maybe even real) potency.
Quote: 7) Possessing spores are legal.
Ok, I agreed with you. Now I'll bash you. Anybody who says spores are illegal just because they are in a syringe is an idiot. Anybody who thinks that any precedent for that scenario will come from PF's trial is also dumb. PF was growing shrooms people! That's manufacture of a schedule 1! They tacked on a conspiracy charge because they can prove that 1. he did it, and 2. he taught others how to do it. Nothing to do with if a spore syringe is legal or not will come out of this trial.
Quote: 6) You need to collect "poo" from farmers for good grows
true, but define "good". I would also say that nothing more than BRF and vermiculite is needed for good grows. But I would also say that no way in hell BRF or miracle grow is going to compete with what I know that field collected manure can produce. If you think otherwise, post some pics of your fertilized shrooms, I'll post some pics of some manure shrooms...doesn't mean fertilizer shrooms may not be perfectly acceptable, but it does mean that some things just can't be beat.
Quote: 5) Spore prints from huge shrooms will result in growing huge shrooms. Yeah, wrong again. There is significant degradation when one attempts to continue to clone a strain. This can also be witnessed when using agar to continue to improve a strain.
boy, you're in over your head now, aren't you? got confused a little with the science behind the hobby, huh? I think what you meant is that spore prints from huge shrooms won't necessarily yield huge shrooms in successive generations, and this is entirely true. There is enough diversity in the spores from a print that many of the resultant organisms will be smaller in stature than the parent fruit. Then you trip over your own words. I'm not even sure what you are talking about clones and agar and stuff, but I'm pretty sure that it's either incorrect, confused, and certainly not a commonly believed myth.
Quote: 4) There is no way to prevent contamination. There are several steps you can take to prevent contams, most importantly using a pressure cooker (obviously). Yet, the one many people forget is the "OVEN-TEK"
1. Show me a home hobyist cultivator who has a 0% contamination rate through all phases of cultivation and I'll show you a liar. Sure, lots can be done to reduce it, but you'll never eradicate contams in a home environment. BTW, I didn't think that anybody ever sugested not working to prevent contams.... 2. Oven tek is a myth in and of itself. I looked at mycotopia, but couldn't find the picture. Hippie put a jar on the oven rack, then a source of smoke in the oven. The airstream actually caused the smoke to blow DOWN INTO THE JAR, not up and away from it like the tek claims. You are better off in an open, still air environment than you are in the oven.
Quote: 2) THE PFTEK is the best method for newbies.
Only a newbie can answer this. When I was a newbie, I failed at grain and fruited on PF tek. I still recomend newb's start with PF tek, it is much simpler. It also allows people to learn even more foolproof teks like invitro cakes and what not. Call it a myth if you want, your opinion counts more than mine on this as you sound like a newb yourself, but I still recomend it, and I've yet to have one complaint from those I've taught the hobby to.
Quote: Bulk methods are for "Advanced" growers.
This is a myth I guess. Depends how you define "advanced". I'd say that someone with a head on their shoulders is more advanced than the average idiot. I'd say that someone who hasn't grown a single fruit, but has a head on their shoulders, the ability to follow directions, and a general understanding of biology would be more "advanced" than many cultivators. But I also know that everybody thinks they are smarter and luckier than they are. Grow some cakes. Case some cakes. Then move on to bulk teks. Unless you want our next exchange to start with your question "is all this green stuff 'sposed to be here?" sure some folks slip through the cracks, but if someone wants to start with the best chances of enjoying the hobby, don't start with bulk substrates.
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