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In his introduction, Crowley argues that the work of demonic evocation is merely a form of psychological self-exploration.

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The Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage[5] is considered both a theurgic and goetic book of magic, mostly used in a religious context. Contrary to the other Goetia Grimoires, this book does not denote the evocation of demons to do one's bidding or involuntary handywork, but describes how one might summon these infernal forces, solely for the purpose of excommunicating them from the life of the Magus. This book was considered a system that led the aspirant closer to the goal of henosis, or spiritual reunion with God. Describing how to summon the dukes of hell, even Lucifer, for the purpose of resisting the temptation of their vices, and binding their influence in the aspirants life. This book told a system of holy magic through an 18 month purification, then after the conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel, one would summon the 4 Great Kings of Hell (Lucifer, Leviathan, Satan, Belial), and make them sign an oath. This Oath (after gaining the power of the supernal realm), would grant the Adept power over the Infernal Realm and aid the Adept in discovering his True Will.

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The Whale said:

A Mormon guy I know, out of strange desperation, told me that he prayed to the Devil and said he could have what he wanted of his spirit if he could finally be genuinely happy in this life. Shortly thereafter, at midnight, his phone rang and the numbers were 666-666-6666.

It was the only time he had ever seen that number or received a call in such a weird manner. I thought he was full of shit until he showed me the number in his "missed calls" list. I was tripping at the time, so it made my skin crawl a bit, even if it's only a coincidence.

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Forever White Belt said:

Kickle said:

I was listening to the song "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" the other day and started pondering this idea and theme of making a deal with the devil. The deal is almost always for one's soul. As if one's soul is safe unless they make a bet with the devil and lose, or trade the soul for a temporary luxury. The Devil usually lays out the rules and expectations, and like any good Vegas shark, tilts the odds in his favor.

Yet at the same time, the idea of getting into heaven is usually preceded by having lived a certain way. Completing the challenges in accordance with the rules God himself has laid out before us. Likewise the odds of living up to the standards is practically impossible. So, what's going on here? Does anyone else see more similarities than differences in the way we make deals for souls regardless of which side the deal is made with?

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If you based God's requirements for getting into heaven off of the ten commandments then I don't see the 'challenge' as 'practically impossible' its actually super easy






If you follow the NT Jesus said all that really matters is to love thy neighbor as you would love yourself

10 rules that really bare down to one rule is not hard at all...

where do people get this challenge from?? I hear this from many people don't see it.

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c0sm0nautt said:

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In his introduction, Crowley argues that the work of demonic evocation is merely a form of psychological self-exploration.

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The Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage[5] is considered both a theurgic and goetic book of magic, mostly used in a religious context. Contrary to the other Goetia Grimoires, this book does not denote the evocation of demons to do one's bidding or involuntary handywork, but describes how one might summon these infernal forces, solely for the purpose of excommunicating them from the life of the Magus. This book was considered a system that led the aspirant closer to the goal of henosis, or spiritual reunion with God. Describing how to summon the dukes of hell, even Lucifer, for the purpose of resisting the temptation of their vices, and binding their influence in the aspirants life. This book told a system of holy magic through an 18 month purification, then after the conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel, one would summon the 4 Great Kings of Hell (Lucifer, Leviathan, Satan, Belial), and make them sign an oath. This Oath (after gaining the power of the supernal realm), would grant the Adept power over the Infernal Realm and aid the Adept in discovering his True Will.

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Kickle said:

I was listening to the song "The Devil Went Down to Georgia" the other day and started pondering this idea and theme of making a deal with the devil. The deal is almost always for one's soul. As if one's soul is safe unless they make a bet with the devil and lose, or trade the soul for a temporary luxury. The Devil usually lays out the rules and expectations, and like any good Vegas shark, tilts the odds in his favor.

Yet at the same time, the idea of getting into heaven is usually preceded by having lived a certain way. Completing the challenges in accordance with the rules God himself has laid out before us. Likewise the odds of living up to the standards is practically impossible. So, what's going on here? Does anyone else see more similarities than differences in the way we make deals for souls regardless of which side the deal is made with?

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The Whale said:

A Mormon guy I know, out of strange desperation, told me that he prayed to the Devil and said he could have what he wanted of his spirit if he could finally be genuinely happy in this life. Shortly thereafter, at midnight, his phone rang and the numbers were 666-666-6666.

It was the only time he had ever seen that number or received a call in such a weird manner. I thought he was full of shit until he showed me the number in his "missed calls" list. I was tripping at the time, so it made my skin crawl a bit, even if it's only a coincidence.

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AlphaFalfa said:

The Whale said:

A Mormon guy I know, out of strange desperation, told me that he prayed to the Devil and said he could have what he wanted of his spirit if he could finally be genuinely happy in this life. Shortly thereafter, at midnight, his phone rang and the numbers were 666-666-6666.

It was the only time he had ever seen that number or received a call in such a weird manner. I thought he was full of shit until he showed me the number in his "missed calls" list. I was tripping at the time, so it made my skin crawl a bit, even if it's only a coincidence.

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http://geekswithblogs.net/thibbard/archive/2006/07/12/84912.aspx

People who didn't pray to the devil got that call.

Irony is that most don't pick it up either, hahaha.

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