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Where is it all headed ?

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giza said:

Next thing you know, obese people will start to commit crimes just so they can go to jail and get stuck with a strict diet of 3 meals a day.

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jivJaN said:

getting trolled so hard in this thread

i thought it was interesting

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Wasn't trolling... I was halfway serious.

It's a great advert for universal care though.

grimmreminder said:

I wouldn't say let 'em rot, but something does need to be changed.

In regards to the bank robber, I think he was rather ingenious in exploiting a flaw in a system to his advantage and I applaud him.  But I also think that the things that led up to this exploitation should be fixed.  This would include both his lack of healthcare and the free healthcare provided to inmates.

The gentleman in question is, I believe, eligible in 4 years through his social security benefits, but is currently not covered and unable to provide coverage.  I also don't expect that joke of a healthcare bill to give him any help either.  Instead of a convoluted mess, they should've started small; something like so many free doctor's visit a year, a monthly allowance($25-100) for medication, stuff like that.  Then maybe this guy and others like him would have to go to extremes to live and stay healthy.

In regards to the inmates recieving free healthcare, I think that should stop, sort-of.  They should still be able to recieve healthcare, but not free.  I think they should work for it like the rest of us.  Prisons are already a massive drain on the economy, thanks in large part to the failed war on drugs.  We've all heard of some kid getting 5-10 years for some trumped up drug charge.

But aside from cleaning out the prisons, they could also become self sufficient.  Why not put the inmates to work?  There are programs in place in prisons across the country that work already, like growing their own food.  I've always heard fairly positive things about them, like reducing costs to the state and reducing trouble in the prison.  Not only that, but the inmates could learn something other than how to be a better criminal.  This could be applied to healthcare as well.  Work and get coverage.  Work well, get better coverage.

It's just a thought.

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Some good thoughts here.  Prisons should be self sufficient AT LEAST with their food for God's sake.  And you don't gotta pay anyone to do the gardening as the prisoners should do it, and do it well if they want to be fed.  The prison system is far too comfortable for inmates nowadays, and far too expensive for the taxpayers who work their asses off to pay for it

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The prison system is far too comfortable for inmates nowadays, and far too expensive for the taxpayers who work their asses off to pay for it.

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The prison system is far too comfortable for inmates nowadays, and far too expensive for the taxpayers who work their asses off to pay for it.

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Prisons being self sufficient is fine, but it won't pay for the doctors. Make the operation for profit, and you're giving prisoners jobs in the face of massive unemployment?

Chain them to a wall in a facility with no electricity for a few months, and people will naturally seek to avoid doing time.

What else are you going to do when the money runs out?

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Yeah, good idea.  But then there are human rights activists who would be strongly opposed to this lol.

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