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psyka
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4732577 - 09/29/05 04:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well history tends to show that. Pardon me for noticing.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: psyka]
#4737815 - 09/30/05 05:10 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wasn't saying that to sound condescending, but I don't understand it when people say that. I believe capitalism breeds greed, crime, and selfishness. For instance: Why does a laid off family man rob a bank? Because he's a criminal or because he is struggling to feed his family and pay his rent?
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4737822 - 09/30/05 05:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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bukkake said: For instance: Why does a laid off family man rob a bank? Because he's a criminal or because he is struggling to feed his family and pay his rent?
You obviously have no knowledge of criminology. The kind of people who rob banks are not "laid off family men." They are usually adrenaline junkies with no respect for the law or other people.
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psyka
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4737824 - 09/30/05 05:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bukkake,
For the new anarchist nation, we need a volunteer team to handle solid wastes. I trust you'll be first in line?
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Re: Anarchy [Re: psyka]
#4737864 - 09/30/05 05:25 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was using an extreme example. The point I was trying to make was, behind most crime there is reason. Usually, you aren't beaten by a stranger for no reason, unless he is a sadist. He takes your wallet, your money, your clothing, whatever else you have that is of interest of him.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4737872 - 09/30/05 05:28 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Of course there is a reason for crime, but that doesn't mean it's desperation. Sometimes it's simply selfishness.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: psyka]
#4737877 - 09/30/05 05:29 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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psyka said: Bukkake,
For the new anarchist nation, we need a volunteer team to handle solid wastes. I trust you'll be first in line?
Yes, I will. The anarchist nation will be one where everyone helps one another in every cause. Where many would be involved in the most difficult jobs, so as to prevent difficult labor as much as possible for the commonman.
What would make more sense, friend. To have all involved in a difficult job, fifteen minutes a day, or to have few involved in a difficult job, hours and hours a day? We are all equals and will act as so.
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psyka
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4737889 - 09/30/05 05:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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15 minutes a day?
People are shitting constantly!
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Re: Anarchy [Re: psyka]
#4737933 - 09/30/05 05:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Different volunteer teams working every fifteen minutes and that being their labor for the day. If you wanted to mine and were attempting to run a utopian society, would it make more sense for everyone involved to work at fifteen minute intervals or eight hour intervals a day?
Maybe I've just lost my mind. I don't know. I often ask myself how I feel about things and question them.
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psyka
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4737975 - 09/30/05 05:54 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anarchy cant work, unless maintence and management are self-automated. This process currently requires humans. And many humans dont like working whether its 15 minutes a day or 8 hours.
Perhaps one day when we merge with our technology and harness the energy of the sun (which may be sooner than imagined).
However, I think we can modify our current system. Cut back on unnecessary funding and work 2-4 hours less.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4737980 - 09/30/05 05:55 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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If somehow anarchy was implemented in the future, I would do my best to consolidate my power and build an army. I would conquer as much as I could before I was stopped.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: looner2]
#4737995 - 09/30/05 06:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, there you are looner. I was wondering when you would show up on this thread.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: psyka]
#4737998 - 09/30/05 06:02 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anarchy can or cannot work. Just like capitalism can and cannot work. Just like socialism can and cannot work. These are all systems and they have their flaws. They can succeed with acceptance or can fall flat on their faces. I prefer anarchy, obviously. So I am biased. I respect your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Looner, that sounds a lot like a psychological problem.
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I am the utopian dream crusher!
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4738018 - 09/30/05 06:07 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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bukkake said: Anarchy can or cannot work. Just like capitalism can and cannot work. Just like socialism can and cannot work. These are all systems and they have their flaws. They can succeed with acceptance or can fall flat on their faces. I prefer anarchy, obviously. So I am biased. I respect your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Looner, that sounds a lot like a psychological problem.
Like voodoo can or cannot work. Like Oujii boards can or cannot work. Etc... Etc.
The problem with anarchy is that it assumes the absolute best conduct from all of humanity. It denies and contradicts human nature. For that, it is beyond reasonable... it is ridiculous.
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bukkake said: Looner, that sounds a lot like a psychological problem.
Denying your nature is a psychological problem. I would seek power because it would be readily available to seize, just like any other alpha male leader who chooses. Not everyone is a willing eunuch, that was sooo 90's.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: looner2]
#4738043 - 09/30/05 06:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only thing we know about human nature is that the penis goes into the vagina and another human is produced.
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looner2
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4738062 - 09/30/05 06:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nope. I've read history books, and I can come to a solid conclusion.
Humans have been warring and striving for power for thousands of years.
You can't argue with history. Utopia will never exist. Save yourself some thinking and ponder something more rational.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: looner2]
#4738108 - 09/30/05 06:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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The history as has been recorded, thus far. Yes, you are correct on that. Scientists are constantly uncovering history from thousands and thousands of years ago. Finding new discoveries. The recent controversy over the Kennewick Man, for example. Which would just about shatter to pieces all we've known about Native Americans in North America. History is how it is interpreted and presented. We really don't know anything.
Either way, I've come across you enough times to know you're a gimmick. I'm done replying to you.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: bukkake]
#4738116 - 09/30/05 06:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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bukkake said: Either way, I've come across you enough times to know you're a gimmick. I'm done replying to you.
Translation: You've shattered my dreams.
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Re: Anarchy [Re: looner2]
#4738117 - 09/30/05 06:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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looner2 said: I am the utopian dream crusher!
OOPs!
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Edited by Icelander (09/30/05 06:27 PM)
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